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Ancient grammatical puzzle solved after 2,500 years : Indian PhD Student at Cambridge Solves 2,500-Year-Old Sanskrit Puzzle Rishi Rajpopat made the breakthrough by decoding a rule taught by Panini, known as the father of linguistics.
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Tarun:
For those of us who aren't living under a rock, we might have heard by now that a scholar has โ "Solved an ancient problem in Sanskrit grammar and proven that all the previous authorities were all incorrect for thousands of years". (Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3gw9v7jnvo )
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It's amusing to see how the university-media eco-system works in the west. A student pursuing PhD in one of the most reputed universities in the west discovers a novel interpretation of a Sanskrit grammar sลซtra, and then ends up getting his PhD from that university based on that interpretation without even getting his novel interpretation checked from traditional vidvฤns (learned scholars) in other parts of the world.
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Media reports that the student who learnt Sanskrit simply in a few years after "swimming, cycling, cooking, praying and meditating" suddenly had a "Eureka!" moment and proved the entire tradition wrong. ๐คฆ
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For those who wish to take pleasure in declaring that the tradition was incorrect all along, it's a great day to celebrate and forward the article to hundreds of contacts. However, for those who know the seriousness of the nuances of Pฤแนini's grammar sลซtras will take such wild claims with a pinch of salt.
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The traditional vidvฤns are now beginning to speak up against this newfound interpretation. One such place where the PhD thesis is being critically examined is the Bharatiya Vidvat Parishat : https://groups.google.com/g/bvparishat/c/IN7LLhJWk6Q
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Sanskrit Scolar Hari Parshad Comments on Bharatiya Vidvat Parishat on this topic:
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In the thesis, the author himself acknowledges (on pages 83,84) that his solution doesn't work while deriving the term โ trayฤแนฤm, but rather gives an incorrect form. He then himself gives a "speculative" (in his own words) reasoning for why it doesn't work. He says that the earlier Vedic form was trฤซแนฤm and it later got fully replaced by the newer form trayฤแนฤm. He then also speculates that someone inserted the sลซtra โ trestrayaแธฅ (7.1.53) into the Aแนฃแนญฤdhyฤyฤซ to justify the form "trayฤแนฤm", and that this sลซtra was not penned down by Pฤแนini.
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All this speculation may look good for a PhD thesis, but I'm not sure how well it will go down with those who side with the traditional commentators. I surmise that those who side with the tradition will say that it is still best to interpret the sลซtra as Pataรฑjali did โ iแนฃแนญa-vฤcฤซ para-ลabdaแธฅ, vipratiแนฃedhe paraแน yad iแนฃแนญaแน tad bhavati (Mahฤbhฤแนฃyam on 1.1.3).
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I think we should wait before declaring that the entire tradition was incorrect for thousands of years. (End of Comment)
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*PS:* Interested people can read further comments by various traditional vidvฤns on the Bharatiya Vidvat Parishat link given above. I have tried to be as uncritical of the author of the PhD thesis as possible, but it's simply amusing to see how some individuals are so eager to declare the entire tradition as incorrect on the drop of a hat. Although the truth regarding such claims will definitely come out in some time, but most people will remain blissfully unaware of it because of the hype generated by the media. This entire phenomenon reminds me of the following verse:
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*ghaแนญaแน bhindyฤt paแนญaแน chindyฤt*
*kuryฤd rฤsabha-rohaแนam*
*yena kena prakฤreแนa*
*prasiddhaแธฅ puruแนฃo bhavet*
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If needed, break pots on the street or tear up your clothes, or maybe ride a donkey in public view, but somehow or other (by hook or crook), you must become a popular person. โ (Subhฤแนฃita-ratna-bhฤแนแธฤgฤram) ๐
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Tarun:
For those of us who aren't living under a rock, we might have heard by now that a scholar has โ "Solved an ancient problem in Sanskrit grammar and proven that all the previous authorities were all incorrect for thousands of years". (Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg3gw9v7jnvo )
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It's amusing to see how the university-media eco-system works in the west. A student pursuing PhD in one of the most reputed universities in the west discovers a novel interpretation of a Sanskrit grammar sลซtra, and then ends up getting his PhD from that university based on that interpretation without even getting his novel interpretation checked from traditional vidvฤns (learned scholars) in other parts of the world.
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Media reports that the student who learnt Sanskrit simply in a few years after "swimming, cycling, cooking, praying and meditating" suddenly had a "Eureka!" moment and proved the entire tradition wrong. ๐คฆ
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For those who wish to take pleasure in declaring that the tradition was incorrect all along, it's a great day to celebrate and forward the article to hundreds of contacts. However, for those who know the seriousness of the nuances of Pฤแนini's grammar sลซtras will take such wild claims with a pinch of salt.
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The traditional vidvฤns are now beginning to speak up against this newfound interpretation. One such place where the PhD thesis is being critically examined is the Bharatiya Vidvat Parishat : https://groups.google.com/g/bvparishat/c/IN7LLhJWk6Q
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Sanskrit Scolar Hari Parshad Comments on Bharatiya Vidvat Parishat on this topic:
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In the thesis, the author himself acknowledges (on pages 83,84) that his solution doesn't work while deriving the term โ trayฤแนฤm, but rather gives an incorrect form. He then himself gives a "speculative" (in his own words) reasoning for why it doesn't work. He says that the earlier Vedic form was trฤซแนฤm and it later got fully replaced by the newer form trayฤแนฤm. He then also speculates that someone inserted the sลซtra โ trestrayaแธฅ (7.1.53) into the Aแนฃแนญฤdhyฤyฤซ to justify the form "trayฤแนฤm", and that this sลซtra was not penned down by Pฤแนini.
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All this speculation may look good for a PhD thesis, but I'm not sure how well it will go down with those who side with the traditional commentators. I surmise that those who side with the tradition will say that it is still best to interpret the sลซtra as Pataรฑjali did โ iแนฃแนญa-vฤcฤซ para-ลabdaแธฅ, vipratiแนฃedhe paraแน yad iแนฃแนญaแน tad bhavati (Mahฤbhฤแนฃyam on 1.1.3).
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I think we should wait before declaring that the entire tradition was incorrect for thousands of years. (End of Comment)
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*PS:* Interested people can read further comments by various traditional vidvฤns on the Bharatiya Vidvat Parishat link given above. I have tried to be as uncritical of the author of the PhD thesis as possible, but it's simply amusing to see how some individuals are so eager to declare the entire tradition as incorrect on the drop of a hat. Although the truth regarding such claims will definitely come out in some time, but most people will remain blissfully unaware of it because of the hype generated by the media. This entire phenomenon reminds me of the following verse:
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*ghaแนญaแน bhindyฤt paแนญaแน chindyฤt*
*kuryฤd rฤsabha-rohaแนam*
*yena kena prakฤreแนa*
*prasiddhaแธฅ puruแนฃo bhavet*
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If needed, break pots on the street or tear up your clothes, or maybe ride a donkey in public view, but somehow or other (by hook or crook), you must become a popular person. โ (Subhฤแนฃita-ratna-bhฤแนแธฤgฤram) ๐
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Love Jihadis following the "AFTAB MODULE"๐
โ๏ธShahbaz took a flight from Gujarat to Chhatisgarh just to kill a Tribal Girl (converted to Xtianity).
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He pierced the 21-year-old girl **51 TIMES** with a Screwdriver!
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โ๏ธShahbaz took a flight from Gujarat to Chhatisgarh just to kill a Tribal Girl (converted to Xtianity).
Reason: She refused to talk with him on the Phone๐
He pierced the 21-year-old girl **51 TIMES** with a Screwdriver!
51 TIMES๐ฑ
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Best Cuisines in the World.
Bharat in top 5 list ,China 11, Pakistan 47, Bangladesh 43
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Bharat in top 5 list ,China 11, Pakistan 47, Bangladesh 43
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๐จThe U.S. and British Embassy in Pakistan puts out notice, prohibiting all U.S. and UK government employees in the country from visiting the Marriott Hotel in Islamabad, due to information of a possible terrorist threat of an attack on Americans at 5 Starโฆ
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Leave Pakistan: After U.S. and UK, now Italy issues security alert for Islamabad, Pakistan.
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Leave Pakistan: After U.S. and UK, now Italy issues security alert for Islamabad, Pakistan.
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Rewa MP: A driver Pankaj Tripathi beats a girl brutually for refusing to marry him. Over and above he gets the act filmed. The local Inspector registers case under just a minor IPC act.
CM Shivraj Singh Chauhan takes Notice of monstrous act, Suspends TI, Orders to book him under section 294,323,366,506,34 of IPC. Also Orders to demolish his home and Cancelation of his driving license.
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CM Shivraj Singh Chauhan takes Notice of monstrous act, Suspends TI, Orders to book him under section 294,323,366,506,34 of IPC. Also Orders to demolish his home and Cancelation of his driving license.
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School kids of Karnataka chant jai shriram and har har mahadev before starting for a temple trip๐ฅฐ๐
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BREAKING : Islamabad Police has put security on high alert in the city. ๐คฒ๐ผ t.me/MeghUpdates
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List of attacks in Pakistan since Friday, as security situation deteriorates. t.me/MeghUpdates
Pakistan Army right now ๐
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#OnThisDay soviet Union collapsed.
Here's a live footage of 26 December 1991 midnight when Soviet Union was Flag replaced by Russian Flag.
#Watch๐
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Here's a live footage of 26 December 1991 midnight when Soviet Union was Flag replaced by Russian Flag.
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Pakistan Army right now ๐
3 injured after unidentified people hurled a hand grenade near the Hub police station in Pakistan.
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Minister of Higher Education to the Taliban says,"even If they drop an atomic bomb on us, we will not back down from preventing women's education".
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DEC 26, 2022, MONDAY
PAUSH SHUKLA PAKSHA, TRITIYA
เคธเฅเคฎเคตเคพเคฐ , เคชเฅเคท , เคถเฅเคเฅเคฒ เคชเคเฅเคท, เคคเฅเคคเฅเคฏเคพ , เคตเคฟ. เคธเค. 2079
TODAY AN EYE ON
โข President Droupadi Murmu to visit Secunderabad, Telangana for winter sojourn at Rashtrapati Nilayam from Dec 26 to Dec 30, 2022
โข President Murmu to visit Srisailam Temple in Andhra Pradesh & inaugurate projects related to development of Srisailam Temple under PRASHAD scheme of Tourism Ministry President to also visit Sri Shivaji Spoorthy Kendram at Srisailam
โข Prime Minister Narendra Modi to participate in a historic programme marking โVeer Bal Diwasโ at Major Dhyan Chand National Stadium, Delhi at 12:30 PM
โข During event PM Modi to attend a โShabad Kirtanโ performed by about three hundred Baal Kirtanis
โข On this momentous occasion, PM Modi to also flag off a march-past by about three thousand children in Delhi
โข Union Home & Cooperation Minister Amit Shah, Union Culture, Tourism & Development of North Eastern Region Minister G. Kishan Reddy, MoS Culture Arjun Ram Meghwal & Meenakshi Lekhi to grace event
โข Union Road Transport & Highways Minister Nitin Gadkari to formally inaugurate partially completed section of 13.2 km Zuari bridgeโ a crucial link between north & south Goa across river Zuari
โข J&K UT , Lt Governor Manoj Sinha to attend โGurmat Samagamโ at Digiana Ashram ,Jammu
โข Jharkhand CM Hemant Soren to hold high-level meeting to review Covid situation at Ranchi
โข Three-day Winter session of Haryana Assembly to commence at Chandigarh at 11 AM
โข Ruling BJD to celebrate its silver jubilee at Puri , calling it BJD Mahakumbh, Around 42,000 cadres from panchayat level are expected to participate in meeting to be presided over by party supremo & Odisha CM Naveen Patnaik
โข Odisha Unit of BJP to hold Satyagraha, says BJD creates record of destroying evidence
โข Ten -day winter vacation for colleges & schools ( Government & private as well) across Jammu division from Dec 26
โข Australia vs South Africa , 2nd Test at Melbourne Day 1 at 5 A M
โข 'Veer Baal Diwas'
โข Death Anniversary, former President of India , Shankar Dayal Sharma
PAUSH SHUKLA PAKSHA, TRITIYA
เคธเฅเคฎเคตเคพเคฐ , เคชเฅเคท , เคถเฅเคเฅเคฒ เคชเคเฅเคท, เคคเฅเคคเฅเคฏเคพ , เคตเคฟ. เคธเค. 2079
TODAY AN EYE ON
โข President Droupadi Murmu to visit Secunderabad, Telangana for winter sojourn at Rashtrapati Nilayam from Dec 26 to Dec 30, 2022
โข President Murmu to visit Srisailam Temple in Andhra Pradesh & inaugurate projects related to development of Srisailam Temple under PRASHAD scheme of Tourism Ministry President to also visit Sri Shivaji Spoorthy Kendram at Srisailam
โข Prime Minister Narendra Modi to participate in a historic programme marking โVeer Bal Diwasโ at Major Dhyan Chand National Stadium, Delhi at 12:30 PM
โข During event PM Modi to attend a โShabad Kirtanโ performed by about three hundred Baal Kirtanis
โข On this momentous occasion, PM Modi to also flag off a march-past by about three thousand children in Delhi
โข Union Home & Cooperation Minister Amit Shah, Union Culture, Tourism & Development of North Eastern Region Minister G. Kishan Reddy, MoS Culture Arjun Ram Meghwal & Meenakshi Lekhi to grace event
โข Union Road Transport & Highways Minister Nitin Gadkari to formally inaugurate partially completed section of 13.2 km Zuari bridgeโ a crucial link between north & south Goa across river Zuari
โข J&K UT , Lt Governor Manoj Sinha to attend โGurmat Samagamโ at Digiana Ashram ,Jammu
โข Jharkhand CM Hemant Soren to hold high-level meeting to review Covid situation at Ranchi
โข Three-day Winter session of Haryana Assembly to commence at Chandigarh at 11 AM
โข Ruling BJD to celebrate its silver jubilee at Puri , calling it BJD Mahakumbh, Around 42,000 cadres from panchayat level are expected to participate in meeting to be presided over by party supremo & Odisha CM Naveen Patnaik
โข Odisha Unit of BJP to hold Satyagraha, says BJD creates record of destroying evidence
โข Ten -day winter vacation for colleges & schools ( Government & private as well) across Jammu division from Dec 26
โข Australia vs South Africa , 2nd Test at Melbourne Day 1 at 5 A M
โข 'Veer Baal Diwas'
โข Death Anniversary, former President of India , Shankar Dayal Sharma
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๐จ Now Rahul Gandhi says that China & Pakistan may soon hit โvulnerableโ India. ๐จ๐ณ๐ต๐ฐโก๏ธ๐ฎ๐ณ
"There is disturbance, fights, confusion and hatred inside our country. We still have the mindset of a two-and-a-half-front war. We don't have the mindset of joint operability or cyber warfare. India is now extremely vulnerable. China and Pakistan are both preparing a surprise for us.
That is why I keep repeating that the government can not keep quiet. The government must inform the entire country what happened on the border." - Rahul Gandhi. ๐๐ช
Read More โก๏ธ https://www.livemint.com/news/india/china-pakistan-together-planning-a-surprise-for-india-rahul-gandhi/amp-11671987147586.html
"There is disturbance, fights, confusion and hatred inside our country. We still have the mindset of a two-and-a-half-front war. We don't have the mindset of joint operability or cyber warfare. India is now extremely vulnerable. China and Pakistan are both preparing a surprise for us.
That is why I keep repeating that the government can not keep quiet. The government must inform the entire country what happened on the border." - Rahul Gandhi. ๐๐ช
Read More โก๏ธ https://www.livemint.com/news/india/china-pakistan-together-planning-a-surprise-for-india-rahul-gandhi/amp-11671987147586.html
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China, Pakistan together; planning a โsurpriseโ for India: Rahul Gandhi
Sharing his opinion while a conversation with Army veterans, Gandhi said if here is any war, it will be against both of them.
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Bangladesh: A Minor Hindu girl Shatabdi Barman(15) was abducted while she was returning from Coaching class by Mohd Najmul and his friends at night of 18.12.22.
Her father and relatives have filed complaint(No- 1244) in Ashulia police station on 19/12/22 and running from pillar to post but no action yet.
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Her father and relatives have filed complaint(No- 1244) in Ashulia police station on 19/12/22 and running from pillar to post but no action yet.
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"Following Jesus Christ requires adherence to righteousness and abhorrence of anti-righteous powers"
๐ฐ Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, tweeted yesterday regarding the revolutionary path of Jesus. (2/3)
๐ Image shows Khamenei visiting the mother of a Christian Iranian martyr soilder.
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๐ฐ Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, tweeted yesterday regarding the revolutionary path of Jesus. (2/3)
๐ Image shows Khamenei visiting the mother of a Christian Iranian martyr soilder.
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