Linda Kohanov: The Tao of Equus

🗓️ 6/9/07 • 🕑 53:27 • 📁 26 MB

Podcast: Attunement: Deep Conversations
Author: Linda Kohanov and Anthony S Wright PhD

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A Woman's Journey of Healing and Transformation Through the Way of the Horse

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There are a bunch of things I've been thinking about this and some discussions I and others have been having in groups about this kind of conversation.

There's one very stark thing I want to exclaim as a performance art peace, sort of knowing the answer (??) but wanting the relational process of verbalizing it more with others, and getting to learn more how others experience it.

It leads from... what IS this whole game without the opponent?

How can we even have the game without the opponent?

If we want to have the game, if we want to succeed in our way, truly the opponent's place is sacred in the panoply.

It's like a puzzle. Someone else will know the next peace.

Okay ready? Here I go.

"We should let them hurt us!  They were right to hurt us the whole time!!"

Parry?

(No parry?)

((Ah ha! A trick!))

I've got to keep going.

If we allow ourselves to be destroyed (letting the opponent win without a valiant striving to meet its challenges), it would seem we are failing to play the excellent game laid out before us.

But at this level of recognition, we cannot hate the forces of adversity playing this game with us. (This wastes our energy, unless that is itself the valuable narrative with which we are engaging...)

We cannot expect to eliminate them completely. (Unless that very expectation is the unique perception worth re-examining and eventually changing...)

We cannot despise the opponent except in cosmic jest.

Or else... would there be no game left?

Except...

...this game has so many layers and stories in it.

We can have any of an infinite number of imaginable and also unimaginable experiences.

What a cosmos to co-create in. What a blessing to discover one another in it.

What does this mean for each of us?

How do we expand our dialogues about it? :-)

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به یاد بسپار،
اگر چیزی تو را رنجاند بر آن مراقبه کن.
احتمالا حقیقتی در آن هست.
اگر چیزی تو را رنجاند
به آن احترام بگذار
و در آن عمیق شو.

علت رنجش را کشف کن ،
نتیجه اش پاداش به همراه خواهد داشت.
اینگونه رشد میکنی.
دروغها شیرینند ، نمی رنجانند.
مواظب دروغهای شیرین باش.

وقتی چیزی تو را نمی رنجاند
نمی تواند انگیزه ای برای رشد باشد،
بی فایده است، تو را درگیر نمیکند.
تمام توجهت را روی رنج بگذار
و عصبانی نشو.
تو برای درک کردن اینجا هستی
نه برای عصبانی شدن...

#اشو

Remember,
If something hurts you, meditate on it.
There is probably some truth in it.
If something hurts you
Respect it
And go deep in it.

Find out the reason for your resentment.
The result will be rewarded.
This is how you grow.
Lies are sweet, they don't hurt.
Beware of sweet lies.

When nothing hurts you
It cannot be a motivation for growth.
It is useless, it does not involve you.
Give all your attention to the suffering
And don't get angry.
You are here to understand
Not to get angry...

@Remembrance✨💫

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' Buddhist monk Thich Nhat Hanh says listening can help end the suffering of an individual.

"Deep listening is the kind of listening that can help relieve the suffering of another person. You can call it compassionate listening.

You listen with only one purpose: to help him or her to empty his heart. Even if he says things that are full of wrong perceptions, full of bitterness, you are still capable of continuing to listen with compassion.

Because you know that listening like that, you give that person a chance to suffer less. If you want to help him to correct his perception, you wait for another time.

For now, you don't interrupt. You don't argue. If you do, he loses his chance.

You just listen with compassion and help him to suffer less.

One hour like that can bring transformation and healing."

~ Thích Nhất Hạnh '

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I just don't even know how to tell you, this amazing joyfulness.

The stark depth of pain and anguish and the deeper brilliant resonance, the terrible wonderful gift of recognizing how powerful that core of love is.

It's astonishing and I'm so grateful you’re here, beautiful interconnected beings — with whom I get to experience it.

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"Sophia is the Wisdom of God, and Wisdom is the uncreated light who pours forth her radiant beams upon all intelligent beings." - St. Hildegard of Bingen

"Conversations of a certain caliber tend to come at synchronicitous and life-altering times. Last night was one of them."

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"In fact, we were wrecked.
In fiction we found resurrection.
Then fiction became fact, as it does, and facts turned out to have been fictions."
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"One of the things that consistently amazes me is how deep we were in that hypnotic physiology, and none of us knew it.
Or if some of us may have had an inkling... we could not do something about it.
We noticed ourselves trying in this way or that way, and failing — inscrutably. What was going on? We would ask ourselves this.
We would try not to blame ourselves, we would even try not to blame others... and yet blame seemed to be the name of the game.
Eventually we would be devoured by the teeth, tongue, and palate of ambient weaponized blame.
In the maw of the demiurge, we flailed our limbs and strove to swim.
She shut her great jaws upon us — there was nothing for it — and gnashed or whole, we were swallowed."
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' “I understand now that I am not a mess, but a deeply feeling person in a messy world. I explain that now, when someone asks me why I cry so often, I say, “For the same reason I laugh so often — because I am paying attention.”

— Glennon Doyle Melton

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Susan Raffo wrote,

' I was recently listening to someone explain that what we call stress is actually fear, but western thought sees fear as a weakness and so has shapeshifted the experience of fear - which is internal - to the narrative of stress - which is more about how the outside environment impacts our sense of self. It’s a kind of subtle collective override. And so I want to name my sped up heartbeat as fear: the fear of being visible to a stranger and uncertain about what might happen in our encounter. The fear of being alone when the weather turns intense. The fear of not knowing where I am going to sleep at night. The fear of giving up and disappointing people. The fear of dissociating and somehow wasting this experience. The fear of the semi trucks hurtling by a few feet from where I am walking. The fear of not having enough water, food or warmth.

The word “fear” is an old German word which first meant “danger.” It’s older root means to try, to risk. In the 1400s, the word fear started to mean a feeling of dread and reverence for God and I have no idea what to do with that. Everything about what I just wrote is a poem, a story, an arc of memories. The word terror means “great fear, dread, alarm, panic” and the word “horror” comes from an old word meaning “to bristle” and refers to the gooseflesh and hair raising that happens when we are truly frightened. And finally, the word “scare” is an old Norse word and means “timid, shy, to shrink from, to avert.” '

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Will Hall wrote,

' I posted this about Arnold Mindell's work back in April, not knowing he was so near the end of his life...

Something inside me said it was time to uplift and honor his work and my debt to him. Arny was one of the teachers who helped me follow those somethings inside me. Great to see how much interest the post got. '

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' I did my masters degree in Jungian psychology at the Process Work Institute of Portland in large part because of Arnold Mindell's approach to psychiatry.

There's a lot to learn from here, for example:

"Process Work does not consider a symptom something to be overcome, but an aspect of the personality in need of integration."
Mindell, City Shadows, p. 77

"... a severely withdrawn state or apparently crazy word-salad is not a biological defect, but a highly ordered and reasonable condition expressing a crucial message."
Mindell,"Psychological Interventions in Psychiatry" Journal of Process Oriented Psychology

"...symptoms are not necessarily pathological, that is, they are not just sicknesses which must be healed, repressed, or cured. Symptoms are potentially meaningful and purposeful conditions. They could be the beginning of fantastic phases of life, or they could bring one closer to the center of existence. They can also be a trip to another world, as well as a royal road into the development of the personality."
Mindell, Working With the Dreaming Body, p.3

"...one of the basic assumptions of psychiatry, that disease entities are 'caused' by specific chemical imbalances, has not, until present, been verifiable."
Mindell, City Shadows, p.16

"In spite of increasing sophistication in research and the interconnection between chemistry and psychotic behavior, there is still no one-to-one cause and effect relationship between disease agents and cures. The applicability of disease definitions based, to a great extent, upon the experiences of a given society seems to be a dangerous definition of a 'physical' disease."
Mindell, City Shadows, p.18

"The mental health sciences are in the midst of a typical 'pre-science' stage of development characterized by either too many or insufficient paradigms."
Mindell, City Shadows, p.20

"Almost all psychiatric textbooks speak of mental diseases in terms of 'disintegration of the personality' and 'unbalanced and chaotic states.' Such descriptions are based upon the unexpressed assumption that the ideal person is able to correspond to the statistical average, and this average is taken as a measure of order, balance, harmony and health. Thus, it seems as if individuals going through psychotic states appear as the chaos and disorder for a culture with a particular idea of order and sanity. This black/white, polar classification of the human being lies at the root of DSM III, which only weakly tolerates the concept of a wellness- not wellness continuum of inner experiences."
Mindell, City Shadows, p.12.

"Instead of immediately diagnosing this or that condition, it is challenging and rewarding to ask what people going through these states are trying to inform me about, and why I am not able to understand them. When I forget to ask these questions, I find myself assuming there is something wrong with them."
Mindell,"Psychological Interventions in Psychiatry" Journal of Process Oriented Psychology

"Diseases are frequently formulated by the client as enemies to be overcome. Many who experience their symptoms discover them to be purposeful expressions of the human unconscious which are searching for more more expression. People are, a priori, neither ill nor well in the process paradigm. ...Being sick is a primary description of a secondary process disturbing us."
Mindell, City Shadows, p.24 '

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"O cosmic birth of all radiance and vibration,
soften the ground of our being
and carve out a space within us w
here your presence can abide.

Fill us with your creativity
so that we may be empowered
to bear the fruit of your mission.

Let each of our actions bear fruit
in accordance with our desire.

Endow us with the wisdom
to produce and share what
each being needs to grow and flourish.

Untie the tangled threads
of destiny that bind us
as we release others
from the entanglement of past mistakes.

Do not let us be seduced
by that which would divert us
from our true purpose,
but illuminate the opportunities
of our present moment.

For you are the ground
and the fruitful vision,
the birth, power and fulfillment
as all is gathered
and made whole once again.

And so it is."

— the Lord's Prayer as translated from Aramaic to English (rather than the traditional and typical one which is translated from Aramaic to Greek to Latin and then to English)

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Excerpted from the Editor's Note in Mother Night by Kurt Vonnegut,

' The title of the book is Campbell’s. It is taken from a speech by Mephistopheles in Goethe’s Faust.

As translated by Carlyle F. MacIntyre (New Directions, 1941), the speech is this:

"I am a part of the part that at first was all, part of the darkness that gave birth to light, that supercilious light which now disputes with Mother Night her ancient rank and space, and yet can not succeed; no matter how it struggles, it sticks to matter and can’t get free. Light flows from substance, makes it beautiful; solids can check its path, so I hope it won’t be long till light and the world’s stuff are destroyed together."

The dedication of the book is Campbell’s too. Of the dedication, Campbell wrote this in a chapter he later discarded:

"Before seeing what sort of a book I was going to have here, I wrote the dedication—'To Mata Hari.' She whored in the interest of espionage, and so did I.
Now that I’ve seen some of the book, I would prefer to dedicate it to someone less exotic, less fantastic, more contemporary—less of a creature of silent film.
I would prefer to dedicate it to one familiar person, male or female, widely known to have done evil while saying to himself, 'A very good me, the real me, a me made in heaven, is hidden deep inside.'
I can think of many examples, could rattle them off after the fashion of a Gilbert and Sullivan patter song. But there is no single name to which I might aptly dedicate this book— unless it would be my own.
Let me honor myself in that fashion, then:
This book is rededicated to Howard W. Campbell, Jr., a man who served evil too openly and good too secretly, the crime of his times."

KURT VONNEGUT, JR. '

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