#Recap Eden Member group (WK45) - posted Sunday 2022-11-13

* #Author_Comments: #68M and related MSIGs discussed but not covered here except for the #Eden_Poll.*

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.5 - Nov 11, 2022 : “Eden Chief delegates discuss Governance. - https://youtu.be/apgF0XTyP1g“ - “"Live Eden CD meeting Fridays 19:00 UTC - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClag0OaWpM0SQeA7GkutlKg/streams"

#Eden_Dispute_Resolution Lead ? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38621 :
--CD-- : Eden now have a Dispute Resolution process as part of community rule-set. Need a 'Circle Lead' to organize and run this process. Anyone interested in this role, please speak up!.
--M1-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38626 : “I would like to offer the idea that the Chief Delegates: … “
--M2-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38682 : “Some possible responsibilities I can think of are as follows : … “
--CD-- : “Scope: This process addresses the removal of Eden members. Its scope is limited to disputes inside Eden that are affecting the integrity of the system. Violations regarding the Induction process, sybil checks in the first round of election, and different forms of vote buying.”
--M3-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38739 : “I have now looked over all bylaws and think they make sense. Personally I think cost (timewise & money related) involved can be lowered. Many … “
--CD-- : “I think we should test the current version first before we start working on the changes. These all might be … “
--M3-- : “I agree.”

#Eden_Poll : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38909 : --M1-- : POLL Question: “Should Chief Delegates in the name of EdenOnEOS take a position regarding the 68M EOS "Unburn"?”
--M2-- : “This is a good question, but I’m not sure how relevant this org or the CDs are to the governance of the network at this moment. What kind of … “
--M1-- : “To not take positions, is to relegate ourselves to irrelevance.”
--M4-- : “EdenOnEos is the truest voice of the EOS community. It should and does have opinions on how EOS is governed, therefore, imo it has to act as a voice for the community. And the CDs are …”
--M5-- : “non aggressive positioning with rationale is probably the right way. it would go a long way in adoption and understanding of EdenOnEos. From my point of view, key learning for us as community is to be proactive in governance.”

#Eden_Fractal meeting 22 on Nov 9 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38758 : “The momentous meeting when we reached consensus and approved the first proposal with the Eden+Fractal process! - https://youtu.be/eJ7g6wWSPKY“

#Eden_Fractal time change! : “Time of weekly meetings changed - now 16:00 UTC Wednesdays. This article includes proposals and reasons to change the time. - https://edencreators.com/time“

#Dan_Larimer Nov/2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38689 : “Part I - Daniel Larimer: #EOS, #PSIBASE, #Antelope, NFTs, fractally and much more! - https://youtu.be/j51Mpe8l0Ng“

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK46) - posted Sunday 2022-11-19

#Sybil_protection plan : https://t.me/c/1186628781/38955 :
--CD1-- : “Here’s progress on the sybil protection plan.” – ““We believe the following is a realistic timeline. Phase 1: S4 (current term) - * Distribute … “”
--M1-- : “Sounds good. I'd encourage you to join the Tuesday NFT Reputation System Circle meeting and discuss since much of this already built out, we're currently working on … “
--CD1-- : “Any objections –M2--?”
--M2-- : “I would skip phase 1 and 2, those changes are not so big that they need … “
--CD1-- : “Had a great call today. Looks like the ability to distribute an NTT upon voting has mostly already been designed and coded . “
--M3-- : “I think it’s wise to always err on the most simple , elegant approach that limits changes to smart contracts that have been working as expected. I think … “
--M2-- : “Dan L. mashed together democratic playoff with sybil check. I think its a sound solution, but that does make first round special in a sense. Alternative solution would be to have a separate round for sybil check, and then later running election rounds, possibly asynchronous. But … “
--M2-- : “Met with my team today and devised how each functionality can be achieved. Its not easy but its also not that hard to do it in a way to minimize changes to the current Eden contract. We are willing to do … “ - https://t.me/c/1186628781/39075“

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.6 - Nov 18, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39139 : “The CDs are on live - join and interact - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLqjjThvWMY“

Eden_Dispute_Resolution Lead ? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39079 :
--CD-- : “After first posting this there was a good amount of dialogue as to how we roll out and really test this Dispute Resolution process. Some of that discussion did seem to add a lot of friction to making this happen but … “ – “With that I will ask again, does anyone want to run this process?”

#DAO_building : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39047 : “3 Questions That Will Help You Build Better DAO Communities - Addressing the challenges of community management in DAOs” - https://link.medium.com/hnTkrsuEZub“

#Eden_Fractal time change! : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39051 : “The Eden+Fractal council approved to change start time of breakout rooms in Wednesday meetings to 16:00 UTC. We’ll open the community room 15:30 UTC. Everyone is encouraged to join the community room before breakout rooms to participate in open discussions.” – “I changed the timezone on the event page to UTC to make it easier for everyone to coordinate their schedules around the world.” – “More in Eden Fractal telegram group: https://t.me/edenfractal“

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK47) - posted Sunday 2022-11-27

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.6 - Nov 18, 2022 : “ The Eden Chief delegates gather to discuss Eden on EOS Governance. - https://youtu.be/TLqjjThvWMY“

#Sybil_protection NTT/SBT : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39173 :
--CD-- : “We met Nov 22 to discuss implementing NTT/SBT distribution linked to voting in the election. Follow progress —> https://youtu.be/BfC5mK3VSAU Reviewing Code and Strategy for NTT/SBT Design. Also View @sachitdabas code —> … “
--M-- : “Please review and feel free to contribute and suggest features or changes.”

#Hacks on EOS Network? : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39169 : “In reply to question https://t.me/c/1186628781/39167 -
“”Not that I am aware of, but sounds like a solid idea for an article on EOS SUPPORT. Maybe this is helpful for now - https://t.me/c/1186628781/39169 - DeFi Has a $4 Billion Hacking Problem. EOS Has a... (cryptodaily.co.uk)“

#Eden_University : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39189 : “Building on Eden University fantasy 😀.. Eden university can be entry point for new members. It can have a 101 course for new members with at least these topics - a) Election training and mock elections, b) Benefits of members, c) Values of Eden - To be “formally” part of Eden … “

#Eden_Fractal meeting 24 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39182 : “The group plays Eden+Fractal and discusses agenda systems, promoting work, making rules, spreading fractal software, and more! - https://youtu.be/kXiH2dhe9Es“

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK48) - posted Sunday 2022-12-04

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet No.7 - Dec 2, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39239 : Eden CDs Weekly Meeting - with the first #Blockproducer representative to join discussion - Michael of EOSUSA. -https://youtu.be/AOR2xWInDLI“

#Blockproducers : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39216 : “Eden CDs invite BPs to join live Friday sessions to share insights, challenges, opportunities, etc. Any BP's here that would like to join us on the live broadcast please reach out to me (@Seedsalchemist) and I'll set up a schedule!”

#Eden_Website : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39236 : “Update: https://edeneos.org/ has now been redirected to http://EdenElections.com - more updates published soon.”

#Eden_Fractal meeting 25 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39219 : “After breakoutrooms the group discuss Cagendas, Vlalendas, Pomelo, Hypha, Alien World's and more! 🌱 - Eden Fractal 25“

* #Author_Comment 1: Lately most of Eden Member private group discussions moved to https://t.me/EdenOSinfo and/or https://t.me/EOSproject (=EOS). This week most posts related to Pomelo projects, seen also elsewhere. *

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK49) - posted Sunday 2022-12-11

#Eden_CDs on Twitter Spaces Dec 8th : https://t.me/EdenOSinfo/43881 : “Use of 500,000 $EOS received … - https://twitter.com/Eden_EOS_Chiefs/status/1600890052313108481?t=qpd2XjstvRfTQuUR8v23oQ&s=19“

#Eden_CDs roundtable : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39345 : “Like to join the CD roundtable and ask questions for CD's to respond to? There's been a lot of excited responses … “ - “”If you are L1 or Eden member and like to join the meeting can do so here - … “l
--M1-- : “Thank you for making that call possible. Good stuff👏”
--CD-- : “Great call all, thank you for joining. I think these L1 + CD meetings are really valuable.”
--M2-- : “yes, would be nice to do them regularly.”

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet Dec 9th : https://t.me/EdenOSinfo/43978 : “Eden on #EOS, CDs Weekly Meeting #9 - https://youtu.be/Im_R9-_l5I4“ - “” CDs discussed and stated our stances on the B1 donation, and how we'll ... - ... Also, a lot more was shared about: …"

#Eden_Hypha : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39280 :
--M1-- : “Do we have any timelines for the Eden upvote system “Hypha version”? I have several people interested in potentially using the software across different projects. Running an eden election essentially.”
--M2-- : “No, and i don't think it will be soon either.”
--CD-- : “Hypha just updated their roadmap (see graphic). All funds raised from Pomelo will go towards expediting this process and adding new features that communities need to govern. Hypha aims for Q1 next year to have the Eden process and full EOS deployment.”
--M1-- : “Thank you for this, very helpful.”

#Eden_interviews 1on1 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39391 : “In my role as CD I'm conducting 1on1 interviews with Eden members to better understand the gaps in our organization and governance process. If you'd like to share and participate please send me a PM and we'll set up a time.”

#Eden_Treasury disbursement ratio : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39298 :
--M1-- : “How quickly can CDs act to lower the distribution percentage ?”
--M2-- : “Now if Eden could use some of those funds to participate in Yield+ … with 5% of TVL trickling back to the treasury. 🤔”
--M3-- : “Any actions or plans initiated how deal with transparency and accountability when now a significant increase in the monthly funding to delegates?”
--M1-- : “Are CDs receiving 2k + 8k ?”
--CD-- : “Yes CD's receive L1 + L2 funds.”

#Eden_Fractal : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39266 :
--M1-- : “Any article about the mechanics of the Eden-Fractal smart contract?”
--M2-- : “Draft article https://edencreators.com/tooling describe Eden Fractal tooling and https://edencreators.com/tooling/admindocumentation for instructions how process respect distributions.”

#Up_Vote_Bot : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39374 : “We are planning 30 minute test of Up Vote Bot. We don't need everyone, but … " - “”The testing will be Monday 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC).""

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#Recap Eden Member group (WK50) - Sunday 2022-12-18
(Post 1 of 3)

#Eden_Sybil protection : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39463 :
--M1-- : "QUESTION: "Whats the plan?"
--CD-- : "Contract automatically issues SBT when you vote"
--M2-- : "Created github repo for ntt and badge issuer. ntt repo is ... - ... and badge issuer repo is ... - ... . Working on hashing out further details in these."
--M1-- : "thnx, will check"
--M2-- : "This is the latest code - ..."

#Eden_future survey : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39547 : "Would you (or anyone reading this) be willing write out a short list of:
A. What you believed/expected Eden to be when joining vs what you experience it as.
B. What changes since Genesis do you disagree/agree with?"

#Eden_Horizons : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39620 : "For those wanting to just watch the "3 Horizons of Eden" part of last CD's session (*as I'm still looking for more feedback from members here*) - It's a first attempt at bringing together all the offerings of Eden into a simple format. - https://youtu.be/qj4ULqtfVNs - Let me know what I'm missing!"

#Eden_Poll 1 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39550 : "Stance on the 500k EOS donation to Eden from B1 - *May select multiple options* - Any major stances missing?"

#Eden_Poll 2 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39845 : "Member dues are currently on the table for consideration for by-laws changes. - At Genesis Eden membership dues were ~$50. Today it's ~$3. What range should dues be? ... "

#Eden_Poll 3 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39853 : "Should polls remain anonymous? For: Decreases potential for retribution against members and their positions Against: Increases potential for non-members/Sybil/bots/etc to manipulate a poll ... "

#Eden_Poll 4 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39859 : "Should Membership Dues be charged: ... - *Choose multiple options you support*"

#Eden_Poll process : "You can always go back and change your vote if things change based on discussion :). Just click on the poll text and click "retract vote" and vote again. All polls in the "Eden Sense Making" channel will remain open for voting, so new members can go and add their sentiments when they join and existing members can go and update their perspectives at any time."

#Eden_UpVote_bot test 1 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39582 : "I want to see how people respond when they are not prepared, its better stress test that way. Simulates chaos :). The links and all the instructions will be shared in tester group" - "The Up Vote Bot test was successful, thank you everyone who joined. ..."

#Dispute_Resolution : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39638 :
--CD-- : "Dispute resolution system - Recap: 1. Person A wants to remove Person B, 2. A finds 3 other members to endorse B’s removal, 3. A posts $ ... - ... 12. If defendant wins, B gets ... "
--M1-- : "I've not studied the proposed model in that much depth yet but what jumps out at me is that 2 weeks is too short a time period. No member should need to check in every thirteen days or risk being removed in absentia. At the very least, a month. I mean, you could go on holiday and be removed before you got back."

#Eden_Funds distribution : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39790 : "The last payments will be for the remaining time of Current CDs, so the payment will be pro rated to 1 day. After the election a new distribution for the next 30 days will be available for newly elected delegates. - https://t.me/c/1186628781/39800 : "Eden distributes funds in advance. You ... "

#Accountability : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39807 : "There should be accountability towards where the money is being put to use. Hopefully next set of CDs use the spend explorer tools - https://spending.eden.eoscommunity.org"

#Bylaws : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39810 : QUESTION: "Anyone have a handy link to current bylaws?" - ANSWER: https://www.edenelections.com/eden-bylaws"

#Recap Eden Member group (WK50) - Sunday 2022-12-18
(Post 2 of 3)

#Eden_Funds : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39802 :
--M1-- : "Personally I think we should keep the distribution high to see what kind of impact Eden can have with lots of financial power backing it."
--M2-- : "I would assume that they will not want to cut their own budget. That said, some may run on platform to cut the budget back to 5%. So in the end, voters will be the ones deciding. I think its a crucial point in upcoming election!"
--CD-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39852 : "15% is far too high with what we have. We nearly ran out of funds once. Why drain it ... "
--M3-- : "Price is but just one aspect. 5% is more than enough to fund projects. EDEN is NOT assured future funding at this point. People should want to join EDEN for EOS Governance not necessarily to just fund their pet projects."
--CD-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39912 - "In this chart we can see the stark difference in the treasury reduction rate, where 15% is ... "
--M3-- : "What would this chart look like if the minimum qualifying amount of EOS were locked up in a Yield+ approved DeFi smart contract and 5% constantly trickled back into the treasury?"
--M4-- : "I just disagree on many accounts, but this is what happens when an organization has no clear mission or consistent culture. Governance was always ... " - ... "Also it has been all but flat out said that the ENF will find funding for us if we show that we can do something with what we have. Let’s focus on that."
--M5-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40115 - "I think this statement can sum this whole conversation up 🙏"

#Eden_Roadmap 3 Horizons : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40124 : "Talking with current CDs we plan to end our term with a formal request to ENF along with a proposed "3 Horizons of Eden / Roadmap" that simplifies what we're aiming to do. The next CDs can ratify this "3 Horizons/roadmap" before we consider it "official" and ENF may send funds if they feel it's worth funding. Current (*Dec 15*) plan. Any amendments to this proposal/plan from any members here?""
--M-- : "I dont think you can/should impose visions on the next set of cds - if initiatives are good, people will pick them up where they stopped."

#Eden_consultancy : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40136 : "The Eden on EOS community could grow to become a community of decentralized governance consultants that help new communities leverage our tools (across all of EOS from DAOs to DeFi, etc) - benefits: ... "

#Recap Eden Member group (WK50) - Sunday 2022-12-18
(Post 3 of 3)

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet Dec 16th : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40288 : “Eden CDs Weekly Meeting #10 - The Eden Chief delegates gather to discuss Eden on EOS Governance. - https://youtu.be/TGpO_ujmp4Q"

#New_Funding_model : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40316 :
--CDa-- : "A recap from the last CD call: - We came to consensus on a modified funding model where we plan to pull from the Treasury into the OpEx account. This new funding model ... "
--M2-- : " ... terrible idea. Doing so without updating the bylaws even worse. Reducing distribution to 5%, while you pulled 15% in your season, its terrible idea too." - "You are removing the base protection that each CD is approving their portion of the budget; you should at least suggest bylaw change, this is a big depature from how eden worked till now"
--CDb-- : "We should hear what others think on this." - "It is a radical shift of how the current Eden works. There is some merit behind it however. We went over it on the last CD call. You may like where its headed."
--M3-- : "Sounds like meaningful action. Love it!"
--M2-- : "I am only interested to see how this can be stopped on new election" - "Propose bylaw upgrade, let new CDs aprove it, then it will be legit."
--CDb-- : "Most of this will absolutely need to go through the bylaw proposal and ratify process. The only deviation here is that we want to kick start other Edens with a small amount from the total treasury."
--M3-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40381 - "The Current CDs decided its ok for them to ... "
--M4-- : "... DO NOT expand until your first location/group/franchise is THRIVING and has proven product market fit, is ... "

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#Recap partial repeat, for easy find, of these 4 member polls, just in case you not yet given your voice!

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#Eden_Poll 1 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39550 : "Stance on the 500k EOS donation to Eden from B1 - *May select multiple options* - Any major stances missing?"

#Eden_Poll 2 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39845 : "Member dues are currently on the table for consideration for by-laws changes. - At Genesis Eden membership dues were ~$50. Today it's ~$3. What range should dues be? ... " 

#Eden_Poll 3 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39853 : "Should polls remain anonymous?  For: Decreases potential for retribution against members and their positions   Against: Increases potential for non-members/Sybil/bots/etc to manipulate a poll ... "

#Eden_Poll 4 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39859 : "Should Membership Dues be charged: ... - *Choose multiple options you support*"

#Eden_Poll process : "You can always go back and change your vote if things change based on discussion :). Just click on the poll text and click "retract vote" and vote again. All polls in the "Eden Sense Making" channel will remain open for voting, so new members can go and add their sentiments when they join and existing members can go and update their perspectives at any time."
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Today's 2 week version of #Recap Eden Member group will be posted tomorrow Monday Jan 2, 2023.

#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) -
posted Mon 2 Jan, 2023 - (Post 1 of 7)
(Next Eden Member Recap - Sun 8 Jan)

#Author_Comments: *If reader wish more related EOS and Eden material https://t.me/Recaps_EOS posted Saturday 31st Dec 2022 might have what you seek. #Recaps Eden Member group meant to give a hint of main discussion topics, at times with dates and/or links which take members to the original posts"*

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet – Dec 16, 2022 : (#Recap_repeat) : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40331 - Weekly Meeting #10 - https://youtu.be/TGpO_ujmp4Q

#Eden_Chief_Delegate_Proposals - 18/12/22 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40380 : "The Chief Delegates (Chris, Jesse, Xavier, Reiki, Waxa) recently conducted their 10th Weekly Meeting" - https://www.edenelections.com/post/eden-chief-delegate-proposal-18-12-22

#Eden_CD_Proposals Term 4 - 18 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40316 : "NONE OF THE BELOW IS YET TO BE AN OFFICIAL PROPOSAL BY THE CDs. PLEASE GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK. - Hey everyone, here’s a recap from the last CD call:
- We came to consensus on a modified funding model. The idea is to pull ...
- If the OpEx account is used to fund initiatives that have CD consensus, the ...
- We plan on creating an msig to request funding ...
- We agreed that funding two distinct membership paths is ...
We would like to emphasize that none of the above has been executed. We are open to feedback from all vantage points. To conclude, we ... "

#Eden_Member - few feedbacks and CD words up to Dec 23, 2022:
--M1-- : 18/12 https://t.me/c/1186628781/40325 "... you are removing the base protection that each CD is approving their portion of the budget; you should at least sugest bylaw change, this is a big depature from how eden worked till now ... "
--CDa-- https://t.me/c/1186628781/40320 "... its not that terrible in context of the recent source of funds and their intended purpose. The use in this case is to start other Edens, not some random ... "
--M2-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40382 "Why are we jumping the gun on starting other language sections already guys?"
--M3-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40427 "The Member Removal action is a good initiative and I like it getting polished. But another similar action ... "
--M1-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40429 "CDs did ask for feedback, so hopefully the changes will only be proposed via bylaw update for next CDs, and not acted on now."
--M4-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40435 "Current CDs shouldnt be spending huge chunks of treasury before next election."
--M5-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40505 "... this exchange and proposed multipoint pinned plan is leaning towards questionable intent for the first time, for me."
--M6-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40586 "... why have elections to select CDs if we’re going to try to micromanage them?"
--M7-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40633 "... it is the CDs that are pushing the narrative and not taking into account the views of the rest of the layers. Only when we .. "
--CDb-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40634 "... my views are changing as we are getting feedback, feedback is a time to change perspectives - https://t.me/c/1186628781/40652 "... we thought it had widespread support, and I'm happy to have messaged in here before taking action.""
--M8-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40986 "All in all, my main takeaways from reading through the discussion that has ensued since the various proposals floated by current CDs can be stated briefly as: All power comes from consent, & when in doubt, ratify. ... " - ""L1 Delegate Distribution .. , Multi-language Eden support & The OpEx Pool .. , Rate of Treasury Emissions .. , Two Tiered Membership ... - Conclusion ... ""

#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) - (Post 2 of 7)

#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) - (Post 2 of 7)

#Eden_Member comment 19 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40854 :
--M1-- : "Just. Caught. Up.... 😅 It sure can be punishing to entertain the illusion one might enjoy a peaceful Sunday now and then... 😂 This community always surprises and delights. A coherent single response to all this in the morning... (took notes on my evening read through the 400 odd messages) Good night my fellow Space Monkeys! 🛸🐒🛸"
--M2-- : "Who admins this group? Why is this hostile rhetoric tolerated?""
--CD-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41418 : "Thanks for the EPIC discussion! The proposal to clarify the role that CDs are playing in Eden - was just that, a proposal, to start this dialogue and process. However, ... ""

#ESP_ESPx Announcement Dec 23, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41883 ;
--CD-- : "Announcing the Eden Smart Proxy - A solution to align the interests of BPs, token holders & #EOS network that will inspire the entire #blockchain industry. #ESPx intends to maximize accountability, transparency & integrity of the $EOS mainnet." - ""To read the Litepaper visit here: https://proxy.eden.eoscommunity.org - To actually understand what ESPx watch here https://youtu.be/YuGVXG-IkpA""

#Eden_Member (some are BPs) feedback & CD words Dec 23-24 and onward:
--CDa-- : "I think the Eden Smart Proxy will be something for members to consider as a function this group can do beyond just allocate funds. Definitely looking for feedback if anyone has looked at it yet!!"
--M1-- : "The only constant is change, but change must happen more slowly than our capacity to adapt to change, or consensus is lost, and we fall apart."
--M2-- : "Improving the existing .. while also inventing emerging .. "
--M3-- : "So many brilliant hard working community members seeming on different sides of the battle, so it's a bit horrifying to see, but the hope of governance working is somewhat reassuring. Let's be sure no soldiers fall in the battle, as we need each warrior for the future."
--M4-- & BP : " ... so ESP is cool supporting bps that are actively vote buying but say they wont eventually?" - ""I've made it a point to stand by my position and explain it... but sounds like really we just want folks to be like "yeah im on board" but not really have any reason to change :)""
--CDa-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42354 ????? "I think you're being a bit harsh. We are working on getting stake...this was just announced yesterday."
--M5-- & BP : "The lite paper does define a 2 month grace period. This is why we haven’t pledged anything, because we’re not going to stop in 2 months if this proxy has like 10m votes. That’s not enough." - ""Well take the pledge when there’s a realistic chance of it happening. You don’t pledge to quit your job when you don’t have anything lined up.""
--M6-- : "How are the funds received by the BPs going to be offset so harm is not caused to our community creators relying on their expertise and staff? ... "
--M5-- & BP : "This notion that block producers are expected to do everything isn’t healthy. We needed other opportunities for people to get involved and fill in those gaps to lessen the burden on these organizations, and we have that now. Right here, in this channel, is another one of those organizations - Eden. The candidates and members here are funded to do whatever is beneficial to the network and its users, while using this experimental election process as the means to decide who gets what."
--M6-- : "My concern is that just because we’re smart individuals doesn’t mean everyone is qualified to make an informed decision on BPs"
--CDb-- : "The damage ... has already been done! "We are trying to fix that. ... " - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43566
--M7-- : "One question I have in terms of macro impact: .. " - "" .. is there a chance that there may be material negative consequences? Perhaps .. " - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43624
--M8-- : "I think its pretty clear that proxy is centralised for now"

#Eden_Member (some are BPs) feedback & CD words Dec 23-24 and onward: (continued from previous post)
--M9-- : "It intends to be centralized but with transparency to replace the current 1-2 persons centralization ... " - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43647
--CDc-- : "As far as I know it will be the most decentralised proxy on EOS."
--M10-- : ".. imo ESPx should operate a separate software for your ESPx(myvote), not using the current Eden, and I don't want to be embroiled in 1000-message debate😂"
--M11-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/43743 "Would BPs paying "advisory fees" to a large whales (*or people who have influence over certain whales*) be considered the same as vote buying under the rules of ESP?"
--CDa-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/44065 ".. BPs who are paying this would need to clearly articulate this, and .."
--M12-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/44127 " ... many acknowledge the current system is not ideal. So forming a Governance+ working group in light of this surge of community engagement could be a positive move. ..."

#Eden_Bylaws : current version ratified October 28, 2022 : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pYLSi6nZXEDAqKkN-t6bNomtno8fHjGJBtJBWUZ0X9U/edit?usp=sharing
#Eden_Bylaws : proposed amendments, Term 4 to 5, Dec24, 2022: "https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s26SHC6Tj16lrHkvIPSRWmLRNAuYRdQ3oRFj7Fk0JRs/edit?usp=sharing"

#Eden_Bylaws discussions 20-24 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41193 :
--CDa-- : "As things stand you are most certainly correct that we shouldn't propose an drastic changes to the bylaws simply because there isn't enough time to get feedback on the wording. For me the only change I'd like to see ... ""
--M1-- : "https://t.me/c/1186628781/41198 ... as a CD you can propose any bylaw, but next set of CDs vote on the whole document (so if you want it to be ratified, only changes with strong support should be added).
--CDb__ : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42063 "The CDs are considering proposing a Bylaw to expand the scope of Dispute Resolution claims to include repeated insults towards other members. That means ... "
--M2-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42127 "In Eden a case must be made for the dispute resolution process to run."
--CDc-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42131 "I'm open minded and haven't yet found a consensus to get behind. ... " - ""IMO it would be a waste (and end up with bylaws too long to read) to attempt to detail every scenario. But very helpful to detail ... " https://t.me/c/1186628781/42214

**#Eden_Bylaws : current version ratified October 28, 2022 : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pYLSi6nZXEDAqKkN-t6bNomtno8fHjGJBtJBWUZ0X9U/edit?usp=sharing
#Eden_Bylaws : proposed amendments, Term 4 to 5, Dec 24, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42435 : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s26SHC6Tj16lrHkvIPSRWmLRNAuYRdQ3oRFj7Fk0JRs/edit?usp=sharing

#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) - (Post 4 of 7)

#Eden_Bylaws : continued discussion : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42435
--CDa-- : "This week we went over the Bylaws ... - They're open for commenting and dialogue ... "
--CDb-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42440 - "awesome...lets leave this open for comment for a few hours and then I'll polish up the final doc tonight to formally present to the community for consideration to be ratified by the next set of CDs."
--CDa-- : " ... feedback directly on the Google doc for candidates this season to read and understand the problem landscape and potentially inform their/our campaigns and how we create consensus/vote."
--CDb-- : " ... it doesn't look like the smart contracts match this. So regardless needs an effort to add this functionality and then amend the wording appropriately."
--CDa-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42793 - "Ideally next set of CDs carry this forward in: 1. Scraping through Eden code to make sure ... . 2. Adding additional Rights and Responsibilities for CDs and Delegates ... 3. Addressing attack vectors and tensions in ... "
--M1-- : "Generally they look fine to me with one exception: ... "
--M2-- : " ... I will definitely run on not ratifying this ..."
--M3-- : "This is way too generic of a description and I fear that .. "
--M4-- : "Should be stated in the bylaws that we are selecting delegates for the ability to build consensus and lead."
--M5-- : "I propose the current version of this new censorship bylaw be limited to: .."
--M4-- : "Officially proposed Bylaws are due this morning, so many of these ideas are things for the next set of CDs to consider proposing during their term. If .. "
--M-- : "Bylaws can only be proposed until 2 weeks before an election as per current Bylaws. I think that window is closed now so no new edits can be done."

#Eden_CD_funding : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40838 : --CD-- : "... only looking at EOS (not the value of the EOS at time of distribution): Term 1 CDs received: ... - HCD received: ... - Term 2 CDs received: ... - ... Term X ..." - https://t.me/c/1186628781/40849 "" ... politics seems unavoidable :). I think a middle ground reduction is reasonable based on everything I've read. We've not heard from a lot of members mind you, just a vocal few.""

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet *12 - Dec 30, 2022 : - "Weekly Meeting discussing Eden on EOS Governance. - https://youtu.be/Ea54XU-D4Qw" -

#Eden_Chief_Delegates-meet *11 - Dec 23, 2022 : - "Weekly Meeting discussing Eden on EOS Governance. - https://youtu.be/OXvb1xHyGe8"

#Eden_DGov_dialogues : https://t.me/c/1186628781/45641 : Eden members invited to: Episode 1 - "Eden DGov Dialogues" podcast on **Wednesday Jan 4th, 2023, 1800 UTC - We'll record and share: - How to participate: ... ""

**#Eden_Ricardian_Contract : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42336 :
--M--" ... the ricardian contract for Eden invitation signing requests is outdated. - ... bylaws require 3 months notice before the next election, conflicts with 3 months terms"
--CD-- : "noted thanks for pointing this out , we will make an issue to update ricardian contracts"

#New_Member welcoming orientations : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41441 : "Anyone interested in quarterly welcoming orientations for potential new members and leaders?"

#Eden_Joking around : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41992 :
--CDa-- : "I was just trying to lighten the mood. If that has caused offence then I apologise. It seemed we had moved past this particular issue ... "
--CDb-- : "It was clearly a joke."
--M1-- : "Joking about a very controversial topic is rarely a good idea."
--CDb-- : "You have to lighten the mood now and again. ... "
--M2-- ; "Ok have fun, I come in 2 hours to read 200 messages lol."

#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) - (Post 5 of 7)

#Eden_future 21 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41443 :
--M1-- : ""... In my view the challenge to those who want to be CDs and leaders of Eden moving forward, how do you take this moment of divisiveness and find enough common ground to move this experiment forward with the needs, concerns and desires of both sides kept in constant esteem and consideration?""
--M2-- : ".. an excellent summary of where focus needs to be."
--M3-- : "Don't just think about the glorious accomplishments you will have, small things too are also worthy of our attention, and necessary for proper functioning of this org."
--M4-- : "To me Eden is a governance process that allocates resources towards projects that help EOS. Pretty straightforward."

#Eden_3_Horizons Dec 23, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41842 : "... What's currently being attempted with the "3 horizons of Eden" model is a start to clarify our shared compass (Where are we going and why would others want to join. And what's is the common thread behind the various projects and proposals seeking funding. Or simply, what is Eden?). ..." - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13MlKUPPs4zZFrFzIlQS9UnTcUwKNsSvFWIqBcmIxJLA/edit?usp=drivesdk

#Eden_Poll 4 of these from CDs : Dec 19, 2022 - https://t.me/c/1186628781/40865 : "#Recap partial repeat, for easy find, of these 4 member polls, just in case you not yet given your voice!"

#Eden_Poll - 22 Dec, 2022: https://t.me/c/1186628781/41551 :
--M1-- : " ... I think polling is an art and a science, and we may need to begin at the beginning to discern which questions need to be asked in what order, and ... "
--CD.. : "Good points. Hard to find a balance btw simplicity and details. Hopefully we can start a culture of polling in EDEN and no doubt we will get better."
--M2-- : "Polls currently are binary (yes/no), I mean that could be extended with some texts arguments . I think Consortium could be extented."
--M3-- : "Also we need to come up with ways for more engagement for a more accurate outcome, having 10 participants doesn’t tell you anything"

#Accountability_Transparency : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41577 :
--CD-- "If any Delegate would like to let us know here or in PM I will update this tracker with the results ... " - "If you were a previous Delegate and have a summary that is missing ... " - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43155
--M-- : "No excuse not to display how .. - https://spending.eden.eoscommunity.org/"
--M2-- : "Tried to use spend explorer yet?"

#Eden_Delegate_Roles : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41676 :
--CD-- : "What is CDs Job? Is there a clear job description somewhere? I believe it would be helpful to explicitly state in the bylaws what Rights and responsibilities we're expecting from each layer of delegates. ... "
--M1-- : "Fundamentally the role of CDs is to help the community fulfil its own defined mission as developed in our series of community workshops which ..." - https://t.me/c/1186628781/41428
--CD-- : "... What you're sharing here I believe is critical organising needs to help this community and I started with the assumption that CD's would meet this need as well (and why ... "
--M2-- : "If we are inserting personal preferences, I would much rather see teams coming to get funding for their specific piece of the puzzle, and get their representative voted in ... "
--M1-- : "Yeh perhaps a mix of CD focuses and talents. To be clear, which bit should CDs not all be doing?"
--M3 : "The challenge is how to design the long-term strategies that delegates and CD can align with constantly regardless of who makes it to the top"
--M4-- : "This is one of the best experiments in decentralization around. It's success is up to each of you/us. What should we be doing? This isn't the only place that argues. I think ..."

#Eden_Sybil protection : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39463 :
--M1-- : "QUESTION: "Whats the plan?"
--CD-- : "Contract automatically .. "
--M1-- : "thnx, will check"
--M2-- : "This is the latest code - ..."

#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) - (Post 6 of 7)

#Eden_future survey : https://t.me/c/1186628781/39547 : "Would you (*or anyone reading this*) be willing to write out a short list of: A. What you believed/expected Eden to be when joining vs what you experience it as. B. What changes since Genesis do you disagree/agree with?"

#Eden_future : https://t.me/c/1186628781/43235 : 100 Years ahead :
--M1-- : "100 years from now, what should Eden be?"
--M2-- : "A literal network of land-based Edens with .. ?"
--M3-- : "A federation of systems united."
--M4-- : "A worker proposal system"
--M1-- : "Lemme rephrase. 100 years from now what should THIS Eden be."
--M5-- : "in next 10 years generative ai will be too good for eden ... "
--M6-- : " ... a good time to plug in an attempt to do this again! ... " - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43306 - ""3rd horizon in the above""
--M7-- : "Looking at it now :)"
--M8-- : " ... able to gauge and follow what consensus is of its membership ... "
--M9-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/44695 - " .. We're very much still playing from behind and we need to use that to our advantage by avoiding mistakes and roadblocks that others have already faced or are facing. .."
--M10-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/45437 "One good way of setting organisational direction (purpose) is to find a shared-values-driven VISION of the future. The purpose and thus direction might even become obvious. (I would do a community-driven job of this via workshops ... "

#Eden_Poll 31 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/45766 : "Let's see if we can find a clear direction here... On chain poll here: ... " - ""In your opinion. What is the primary purpose of EdenonEOS?"" *(Not Eden itself, or the process. But the Genesis.eden community.)*

#Hotstuff_consensus protocol : https://t.me/c/1186628781/44942 :
--M-- : "Hotstuff is the consensus protocol that will be implemented on Antelope with the instant finality upgrade. I'm personally trying to learn more about it now myself."
--UX team-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/44979 : ""What we are really doing is, we are upgrading the consensus model to use the Hotstuff consensus. Hotstuff was originally developed by .. - .. It is state-of-the-art BFT state replication protocol. ... "
--M-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/44994 ".. If we want to talk about governance right now, why not get even more radical with it? .. "

#Eden_Knowledge_Base : https://t.me/c/1186628781/41241 :
--M1-- : "Would someone please run on creating and maintaining a searchable Eden knowledge-base? Sort of a one stop shop for all info related to Eden? We need better signal to noise ratio, better visibility into proposals, who ... "
--M2-- : "It is definitely needed! Even I get lost at times despite daily read many places including here in Telegram. The new web site ..."

#Eden_Fractal as Eden circle : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40539 :
--M-- : "I’d like to see more plans for EdenOnEOS to integrate or include Eden Fractal ..."
--CD-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/40550 : "Eden fractal will soon have their circle represented as part of Eden on edenelections.com and have the oppertunity to request funding from CD's."

#AI_Chat_bots : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42637 :
--M1-- : "I can remove this ceaseless regurgitation of AI wordsoup, but I guess I’m not sure if there’s an operator behind it, or if it’s just pure AI run amok in here? Eden member with bot? or just bot ... "
--M2-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42727 " ... bots not yet ready participate in discussion in a meaningful productive way. I would only consider allow if/when judged safe and silent so not disrupt or spam kind of."

#Recap Eden Member group - up to end of 31 Dec, 2022, (UTC) - (Post 7 of 7)

#Membership - 26 Dec : https://t.me/c/1186628781/43137 :
--M1-- : "Members knowing that their inactivity will get them booted has historically been shown to incentivize them to participate. You see this in .. "
--CD-- : "Perhaps with enough consensus among CD's rules can be put in place to do what you have suggested."
--M2-- : "The question is how we define members." - "" .. member candidate, only active members that can show (...) that they joined at least one election (correctly) in the last year."" - https://t.me/c/1186628781/43141

#Hypha_on_EOS : https://t.me/c/1186628781/43388 :
--M1-- : " ... been in action bundle of years developing along the way - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4wkSnXnNdU"
--CD-- : " .. can use on-chain governance to make agreements about off-chain assets (e.g. issuing NFTs (or "Badges") that give admin privileges to token-gated member chats on Telegram, etc)."
--M2-- : " ... address the infrastructure such as Circles that Hypha provides ..."
--CD-- : https://t.me/c/1186628781/43401 : "Sure, you can think of a circle as a DAO within a DAO (same concept as Fractals) .. "

#Growing_Pains 28 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/43835 :
--M1-- : "Great discussions these past few days, if frustrating at times… these are growing pains, but I've been impressed by the wave of engagement. And Eden is growing up! 🌱 We're at ... "
--M2-- : "Also I’m so tired so I might not be answering your question. Going to hit the hay and read this again in the AM 😄"
--M1-- : "same... I intentionally drop these when folks are totally exhausted after a day of flame wars over the holidays so my words bypass the conscious mind and incept everyone with a desire to be excellent to one another. 😉"

#CoC_proposal draft - 25 Dec, 2022 : https://t.me/c/1186628781/42964 :
--M1-- : "Those in favor of the CoC proposal can contribute to the start of a draft here. - The doc is editable by anyone with the link for now, we'll collectively ... "
--M2-- : "I suggested earlier to run this process through an Eden Fractal circle...if there's interest..."

#Eden_moderation 29 Dec : https://t.me/c/1186628781/44397 : "Thoughts on some moderation here. - Consider avoiding circular discussions - I've seen a few where even those participating in them have acknowledged them to be a distraction and a waste of time - yet the messages keep flowing... (Definitely not all conversations here! Some epic stuff happening!). Also, some members making 100+ messages/day ... "

#Author_Comments: *Many of the discussions above continues!*

= END =

#Recap Eden Members will be posted tomorrow Monday 9th January, 2023.

Although it seems like Eden CDs succeeded, at least for now, to lead the charge toward normalcy in Eden Member discussions I decided postpone Eden Member private group #Recap until Sunday 15th!

Then a 2 week such and after date set for CD change over meeting. 🐬

"#Recaps Eden Member" unfortunately delayed by a day or two. Caused by few issues beyond my control, including technical such. 😔