@adamscochran Hmm nope: when you make harmful factual claims without reasonable evidence, that is defamation e.g. I could state on Twitter you are a pedophile.. I don't know that's false, but it would be harmful, and since I have no evidence, it would be defamation, obviously👇
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@adamscochran You cannot just state harmful false facts about someone and then claim you didn't know any better. If you are parroting someone else, you need to say "allegedly." Here, he could have referenced the court filing. But just pushing a factual claim w/o clarifications is defamatory👇
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@adamscochran And seriously... would you want it any other way. Are you telling me it should be ok if I could push false factual claims about you that harmed your family, your reputation, your project, your community, etc. I bet if the ball was on the other foot, you'd see things differently
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@adamscochran @spreekaway I am within my rights to demand defamation that harms me, my family, crypto research, my community, etc is taken down. I demanded an apology because @spreekaway should apologize for harming others. That's not coercion. Re your legal arguments: https://t.co/l37aABcAXT
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@Evan_ss6 @SuddenlyHazel Dude, with all due respect, when someone is defaming and harming you, your family, your project, your community, making false claims you are a criminal, then we'll see how you react. Until then, go get a life.
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@outrollthat @SuddenlyHazel @spreekaway Price is what people are willing to pay. If a market starts by establishing a price giving token market cap of $1000 trillion, then obviously it can fall without need for "insiders selling." Crypto Leaks Case #1 kindly gave background, see https://t.co/tnpJ8uKHKC
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@adamscochran Yes, but the text does not say that the words came from a _hearsay_ legal filing. Instead, statement was presented as fact, and that's the problem.Regarding @spreekaway's intent, his wording "Insane Clown Posse strikes again" obviously show this was intended to cause harm.
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@adamscochran @spreekaway Are you in all seriousness saying that you think society should support this kind of thing, like, really, really? I bet if it was you on the end of this your opinion would be very different. My guess is you've never experienced this and you can't imagine.
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@spreekaway I am grateful that you are willing to amend those claims, because they have been seen by tens of thousands of people already, and caused serious harm. But you are acting like YOU are the person that has been harmed, rather than the perpetrator of harm. That's totally fucked👇
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@spreekaway The reason I asked you to apologize was to give you a way to reduce the harm you'd ALREADY caused. This felt like a kinder and better way than legal action. If people wantonly attack us and cause us harm, we want something. An apology and correction would have been enough👇
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@spreekaway Instead, you doubled-down, and willfully amplified the harm as much as you could, rather than accept you were at fault. You gaslighted us that we were in the wrong, when you are. Your actions means we could now ask for punitive damages👇
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@spreekaway You have to understand, what you did is extremely harmful in practice, as well as theory, and you are attacking innocent people. Where is your integrity? You should be wanting to apologize for your actions👇
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@spreekaway As the wronged party, we demand resolution, we are not asking. You have mocked my private message. I'm not bluffing: send me your name & address and I will send you legal correspondence in public.I don't want court, but I demand resolution. You have better suggestions now?
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@youngseebi @bax1337 @adamscochran His tweet: "Insane Cl... strikes again" statement is followed by text presented as how we struck as though factual. No indication text was from legal hearsay in California legal filing, no use of "allegedly" etcAs such v defamatory and harmful to us. We don't accept that
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@cobie @0x_Hammer @adamscochran @SuddenlyHazel @spreekaway In American legal filings, you can make up any lie/story you like bc it's protected speech. Bad dudes use that as a way to smear people. The problem was that the tweet said "Insane Clown Posse strikes again" then presented the extracted lies as the facts of how we struck👇
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@cobie @0x_Hammer @adamscochran @SuddenlyHazel @spreekaway A fair introduction would be "former employee demanding money parrots Roche Freedman in legal filing." However, there wasn't even referrence to a legal filing, and, "strikes again" provides the clear impression that I/we did that – and tens of thousands of people saw that👇
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@cobie @0x_Hammer @adamscochran @SuddenlyHazel @spreekaway For the record, I don't think @spreekaway probably realized what he was doing, and was like many influenced by the criminal FUD and defamation created by e.g. SBF, Alameda & others scared Internet Computer tech threatens their bags. But that doesn't reduce the harm it caused us
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@AIstronaut_AI @icpbull @dfinity We are already suing Arkham Intelligence and the NYT for defamation (we believe SBF <> Andrew Ross Sorkin are behind NYT actions). NYT may be able to wriggle out owing to press protections. Arkham and its officers in much tougher position
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@icpbull @icarus_icp Yes & no. Unfort unanswered defamation has serious v nasty effects on our proj. Ignoring doesn't really work, we need to stop it. I tried to resolve with @spreekaway. Seemed there was progress, in the end he blocked & said ok court action - forgetting to give me his name/addr...
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@icpbull @AIstronaut_AI @dfinity He wants to say he's an anon, but he's got 22k followers & got tens of thousands of views on his defamation tweet, so he wields real power to harm others. He chose to exercise his power to cause harm, & now lawyers will resolve right and wrong in court
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