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So let we go more in detail about this topic rape in Norway Part 3
https://t.me/RapeTelegram/1662

Antall unnvikelser fra fengsler med lavt sikkerhetsniva var 5.

One case of escape from a high-security prison has been recorded in 2021. The number of escapes from low-security prisons was 5.

Det er ikke registrert tilfeller av rømning fra fengsel med høyt sikkerhetsniva i 2020. Antall unnvikelser fra fengsler med lavt sikkerhetsniva var 3.

There were no recorded cases of escape from high-security prisons in 2020. The number of escapes from low-security prisons was 3.

2019: Det er registrert 2 tilfeller av rømning fra fengsel med høyt sikkerhetsniva Antall unnvikelser fra fengsler med lavt sikkerhetsniva var 18

There have been 2 cases of escape from prisons with a high security level. The number of escapes from prisons with a low security level was 18

Fengslet har bare har penger til ett alminnelig to meter høyt gjerde, og ikke et ekstra sikkerhetsgjerde slik fengselet selv ønsker https://perma.cc/X72M-3M69

The prison only has money for an ordinary two-metre high fence, and not an additional security fence as the prison itself wants. 🤦‍♂️

Mannen kom seg over et gjerde, men var på fengselets område hele tiden.

The man got over a fence, but was on the prison grounds the whole time https://perma.cc/4CHS-H9YJ

Fengselet frykter rømnings- forsøk fra Breivik https://perma.cc/SB5Y-P99Q

The prison fears an escape attempt from Breivik

Dette er ikke første gang en fange har rømt fra Larvik fengsel, forrige gang var i 2011, da en innsatt kom over muren i luftegården. Borhaug kan ikke gå inn på detaljene i den rømningen, men sier at det var en lignende situasjon som den i helgen.

This is not the first time a prisoner has escaped from Larvik prison, the last time was in 2011, when an inmate came over the wall in the air yard. Borhaug cannot go into the details of that escape, but says that it was a similar situation to the one at the weekend https://perma.cc/L9ZD-SE9N

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So let we go more in detail about this topic rape in Norway Part 4
https://t.me/RapeTelegram/1662

So to summarise the last 3 post: we talked about prison break, max 21 years (for group rape), different types of rapes, high rape in nordic countries, etc.

Let we go now back to the article.

Loven kan ikke virke avskrekkende hvis ikke folk vet hva som er straffbart, og hvor høyt straffenivået er.

The law cannot act as a deterrent if people do not know what is punishable and how high the level of punishment is.

Well, now you have all what you need:
- laws
- stats
- prison break
- recidivism facts
- Breivik examples
https://t.me/AndersBehringBreivikTelegram
- behind death / lifetime sentence facts
https://t.me/AmnestyBullshit
- other prison facts
https://t.me/PrisonFacts
- etc.

and you can exactly see how many things are huge limited, works bad or create just the 🤦‍♂️ sensation ...

I snitt svarte 49 prosent av deltagerne at straffenivået er passende. Dette er historisk høyt. Mens andelen som mener at straffene er for milde, er historisk lav, sa Peter Scharff Smith, professor ved Institutt for kriminologi og rettssosiologi ved UiO.

On average, 49 percent of the participants answered that the level of punishment is appropriate. This is historically high. While the proportion who believe that the punishments are too lenient is historically low, said Peter Scharff Smith, professor at the Department of Criminology and Legal Sociology at UiO.

I en undersøkelse av rettsoppfatningen i 2009, mente seks av ti at straffenivået var for mildt. I den ferske undersøkelsen, er tallet sunket til fire av ti.

In a survey of legal opinion in 2009, six out of ten believed that the level of punishment was too lenient. In the recent survey, the figure has dropped to four out of ten.

Voldtektssaken deltagerne ble bedt om å vurdere, gjaldt en sovevoldtekt der en kvinne på 20 ble kraftig beruset, kastet opp og sovnet i en seng.
Norway Rape Laws Part 5
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En mann hun har møtt på festen legger seg i sengen sammen med henne, kler av henne, og har samleie med henne. Dette forstår kvinnen først neste morgen da hun våkner og oppdager at hun er avkledd, har sæd i skjeden, og er sår nedentil.

The rape case the participants were asked to assess concerned a sleeping rape in which a 20-year-old woman was heavily intoxicated, threw up and fell asleep in a bed. A man she met at the party gets into bed with her, undresses her, and has intercourse with her. The woman only understands this the next morning when she wakes up and discovers that she is undressed, has semen in her vagina, and is sore underneath.

Dommerpanelet mente at det ikke var tilstrekkelig bevist at gjerningspersonen forstod at kvinnen sov, og mente at mannen måtte dømmes til fengsel i halvannet år for grov uaktsom voldtekt, og erstatning på 90.000 kroner.

The panel of judges believed that it was not sufficiently proven that the perpetrator understood that the woman was sleeping, and believed that the man should be sentenced to prison for one and a half years for grossly negligent rape, and compensation of NOK 90,000.

Dersom mannen hadde forstått at kvinnen sov, ville minstestraffen ha vært tre år og normalstraffen fire år ubetinget fengsel, og kvinnen ville ha kunnet få en oppreisningserstatning på 200.000 kroner.

If the man had understood that the woman was sleeping, the minimum sentence would have been three years and the standard sentence four years of unconditional imprisonment, and the woman would have been able to receive restitution compensation of NOK 200,000.

Samtidig kommer det frem i undersøkelsen at om lag åtte av ti mener at straffenivået i voldtektssaker er for mildt.

Minstestraffen for voldtekt / sovevoldtekt i Norge i dag er tre år, mens normalstraffen er fire års fengsel.
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At the same time, the survey reveals that around eight out of ten believe that the level of punishment in rape cases is too lenient.

The minimum sentence for rape / rape in Norway today is three years, while the standard sentence is four years in prison.

Ok, so again the case:

raping a sleeping girl after "was heavily intoxicated, threw up and fell asleep in a bed"

🇫🇷 était fortement intoxiqué, a vomi et s'est endormi dans un lit
🇮🇹 era pesantemente ubriaca, ha vomitato e si è addormentata
🇩🇪 war stark betrunken, hat erbrochen und ist eingeschlafen
🇪🇸 estaba fuertemente intoxicado, vomitó y se quedó dormido en una cama

First: missing context at all, so we need to check the real full story ...

Siv, aged 20, was at a party at a friend's house where there were both acquaintances, friends and strangers. There was a lot of alcohol at the party, and Siv drank heavily. Late in the evening, Siv started talking to Brian, whom she had not met before. They danced and talked for a while. Siv left Brian to go to the bathroom. Siv was heavily drunk and threw up in the toilet. After going to the toilet, she was very dizzy and went into an adjacent bedroom to lie down. She fell asleep immediately. A friend saw that Siv went into the bedroom, looked in at her, and saw that she was sleeping so heavily that she seemed almost unconscious.

Brian went after a short while to check on Siv. He did not find her in the toilet, but when he looked in the bedroom door, which was ajar, he saw that Siv was lying in bed. Brian then went into the bedroom. When he got into bed behind Siv, he noticed that she had vomit residue in her hair. He felt her breasts, without Siv reacting. He took off her pants and panties and had intercourse, before falling asleep next to her. Siv did not open her eyes while the intercourse took place and was completely relaxed in her body.

SORRY THIS IS FULL RAPE! so he had NO PERMISSION TO DO THAT! THIS IS A SERIOUS CRIME!
Norway Rape Laws Part 7
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First of all, already in Switzerland laws are too low, but let we check laws ...

Wer eine urteilsunfähige oder eine zum Widerstand unfähige Person in Kenntnis ihres Zustandes zum Beischlaf, zu einer beischlafsähnlichen oder einer anderen sexuellen Handlung missbraucht, wird mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu zehn Jahren oder Geldstrafe bestraft https://perma.cc/5LJ6-4PVW

Chiunque, conoscendone e sfruttandone lo stato, si congiunge carnalmente o compie un atto analogo alla congiunzione carnale o un altro atto sessuale con una persona incapace di discernimento od inetta a resistere, è punito con una pena detentiva sino a dieci anni o con una pena pecuniaria https://perma.cc/EV9H-5EDA

SO ALREADY HERE YOU SEE THAT LAWS IN NORWAY ARE SHIT COMPARED TO SWISS! and what the people told is too low too!

Obviously this crime is less worse for the girl than a violent group of rape, BUT we need to remember that the girl could still have identical suicidal thoughts / depression or whatever, because she has no idea what happened and maybe she could think, that she got raped by 10 people or she got filmed or whatever. So the girl was not present during the rape, but the consequences could be pretty similar.

RAPE IS RAPE! 3 years of prison is ridiculous!

In France you would get 20 years, not 10 years like shitty Switzerland ...

Le viol défini à l'article 222-23 est puni de vingt ans de réclusion criminelle :

12° Lorsqu'il est commis par une personne agissant en état d'ivresse manifeste ou sous l'emprise manifeste de produits stupéfiants https://perma.cc/2HNC-QZ5E

So please 🇳🇴, don't use stupid example saying people are not able to make sentence, if you consider a rape as ok, which is NOT!

People did wrong decision and your laws are to soft too. If you just compare some laws, you see exactly the difference and we don't mean that France has 🥇 laws ...

Again the solution is a step by step sentence based on the amount of crimes
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/20
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How deep is a rape?

The girl has right! No one can told that, if they never get raped. Like our politicians have no idea what a suicide due to rape means, because they probably never did that!!!

Second: doesn't matter who did that, if a 5 year, a 18 year, a 12 year or a 95 year man, all should get a proper sentence and not just because you are under 18 you get almost nothing ... just because you are a kid! WTF!

Third: how this rape has been done, how long, did they filmed that, did they helped the girl at the end, how they act after the rape and mass media diffusion, etc. all such factors should be considered inside the sentence.

Let we say (just as example)

20 years just for rape

you raped in group +10 years

you filmed that .. + 5 years

you shared the movie ... + 5-10 years

you give a shit to that + 10-20 years

you did already once with another girl —> lifetime / death sentence per default!

you raped a under xxx years + 10-20 years

someone raped a girl that has been raped few minutes ago (= not same group) —> lifetime / death sentence per default!

you raped the girl and then you made dinner —> lifetime / death sentence per default!

you raped and killed —> lifetime / death sentence per default!

you raped in an aggressive terroristic way —> lifetime / death sentence per default!

you raped the girl multiple times in the same day —> lifetime / death sentence per default!

you raped multiple girls —> lifetime / death sentence per default!

you tried to rape a girl —> 10 years per default

etc.

This is proper sentence, not the shit we are doing today

More shit you are doing, more year of prisions you should get!

About finding the source of the problem: yes, this is not just an issue with the raper and victim, but there is much more behind that.

About education: you can educate people, but there will be still killers and rapers. So education can help, but will not remove the problem at all.
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Sorry, but such people need to get sentence in proper way! This is nothing different than doing a terroristic attack (just to 1 person)!

A teenager who went viral after pushing her friend off a 60-foot-high bridge was sentenced to 2 days in jail https://perma.cc/9QL8-JTPL

Taylor Smith, 19, pushed 16-year-old Jordan Holgerson off the Moulton Falls Regional Park bridge in south-western Washington state last August. She suffered punctured lungs and six broken ribs as she landed in the water below.

Smith was sentenced to two days in prison, ordered to pay a fine of $300 and have no contact with Ms Holgerson for two years at the district court hearing in Clark County yesterday https://perma.cc/6ZZX-FYG6

This is just to show HOW LAWS ARE SHIT!

https://t.me/RapeTelegram
https://t.me/PrisonFacts

If this girl would be dead, there would be a 20 - life or death sentence ... BUT BECAUSE SHE IS STILL ALIVE THEN IT'S NOT A PROBLEM!

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Are we sure that Italy or Switzerland is better than America ... ?

Not only because homicides are low, means the laws are better!
https://t.me/PrisonFacts/925

24 years, life sentence for car accidents in Europe? JUST A DREAM!
https://t.me/CarAccidentsFacts/197
https://t.me/DefenceTelegram/153
https://t.me/CarAccidentsFacts/104
https://t.me/CarAccidentsFacts/100

like many other missing laws
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/52
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/53

IT'S TIME TO STOP 💩 LOW SOFT SENTENCES!

People doing abuses?
https://t.me/DefenceTelegram/613
IN PRISON!

People doing terror attack without killing people?
IN PRISON FOR LIFE!
https://t.me/PrisonFacts/948

People doing terror attack (rape, violence) to people without killing such people?
IN PRISON!
https://t.me/CrimeExamples/45

People just thinking about raping a girl, by trying that without raping the girl?
IN PRISON!
https://t.me/CrimeExamples/44

NO ONLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T KILL PEOPLE MEANS YOU ARE NOT A CRIMINAL!
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/47
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/29
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/42

It's time to consider all things related to crimes, even by sharing less bullshit about recidivism!
https://t.me/RecidivismFacts

The problem? Many prisons are already FULL or almost full, so it's easier to keep🙈 closed or release such dude after few years ... otherwise we have a problem with the amount of prisoners ...
BUT THIS IS NOT A SOLUTION!
https://t.me/PrisonFacts/900
https://t.me/PrisonFacts/388

It's time be honest without doing mafia
https://t.me/PrisonFacts/194
https://t.me/ShittyDeathSentences/100
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Acid Attack to a person?

Well for us IS A DEATH SENTENCE WITHOUT PAROLE! if the dude has been found with enough proofs.
https://t.me/DeathSentenceNOW

Seriously are we still able to do such things?
https://t.me/WomenRightsTelegram/426

It's time to stop to give criminals more human rights than innocent people!
https://t.me/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/16

No matter what. Even with a death sentence the damages are not fixed ...
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/47
https://t.me/HumanRightsChecklist/110
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/42

but at least prevented
https://t.me/RecidivismFacts

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We just discovered now that an elderly died after getting a wrong bill of 15k euro, instead of few euros ...

What will happen to the dude who did this? Probably NOTHING! because every time someone is doing shit in indirect way, they don't go in prison

Obviously this doesn't mean a death sentence or life sentence, because make no sense at all, even 20 years of prison for homicide ...

but for sure it's not ok to keep such people free.

Then people complain about climate activists ... (we will write more soon) by ignoring such things or ignoring all people with trauma or dying indirectly due to illegal cure, suicides, etc.
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/47
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/66
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/79
https://t.me/HumanRightsChecklist/116
https://t.me/KeepEyesClosed/20
https://t.me/HumanRightsChecklist/115
https://t.me/WomenRightsTelegram/599

No difference! Everyone should get sentenced!
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/41
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/79
https://t.me/KeepEyesClosed/20

Exactly like killing 1400 animals ...
https://t.me/IsraelPollution/210
or even K or mio of animals!
https://t.me/IsraelWarAnimalRights/82
so with animals this is even getting worse ...
https://t.me/DefenceTelegram/573
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This is exactly the SHAME OF OUR GOVERNMENTS! and politicians! Part 1

They don't check the problems at all.

They think

- Well death sentence means killing people in an inhumane way

when the reality is
- recividism are high! and current values are mostly fake underestimated!
https://t.me/RecidivismFacts/166
- death sentence is an "assisted suicide!"
https://t.me/CrimeExamples/12
- not all prisoners are in the same category!
https://t.me/ParoleFacts
https://t.me/DeathSentenceNOW
https://t.me/ShittyDeathSentences
https://t.me/BreivikDeathSentence
https://t.me/CannibalTelegram
- even homicides are not homicides!
https://t.me/RecidivismFacts/121
https://t.me/CrimeExamples/11
- we ignore trauma, suicides
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/47
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/66
- we ignore that people could redo same crime without getting in prison again!
https://t.me/RapeTelegram/1694
https://t.me/RapeTelegram/1660
- maybe they even escape ...
https://t.me/PrisonFacts/881
- etc.

- Well abortion means killing a fetus
https://t.me/HumanRightsChecklist/115
https://t.me/PoliticsTelegram/29
when the reality is
- suicides
https://t.me/LawsTelegram/66
- illegal abortion
- complications of illegal abortion
- deaths due to illegal abortion
https://t.me/EuthanasiaTelegram/248
- illegal traffic of abortion pill
- infanticide
- poverty / homeless
- missing support of the mother to the kids, which lead to criminality / homicides / terrorism / other deaths / suicides / traumas!
https://t.me/StuproFatti/298
- etc.
https://t.me/EuthanasiaTelegram/166

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