𝐍𝐒_𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐫𝐲_𝐄𝐱𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐬 𝐋𝐘𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐥 𝐖𝐨𝐥𝐟𝐟'𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐨𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐧
Fruitless source denial brutally debunked

NSHE get's wrong on so many things such as the date of the interview, the source of it, Karl Wolff's voice, etc, despite the fact that all of the sourcing is in the original post for anyone to research. Karl Wolff did in fact say that Hitler saw Christianity as a disease.

NS Heathenry cited the original raw audio of the interview for clarity on the full context and wording of what Karl Wolff said. As for the supposed "interviews" from mourningtheancient that they cite, see this.

NSHE is proven wrong yet again. Time after time.

𝐒𝐔𝐏𝐏𝐎𝐒𝐄𝐃 '𝐌𝐀𝐒𝐒' 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐇𝐈𝐓𝐋𝐄𝐑 𝐅𝐑𝐎𝐌 𝐀𝐃𝐎𝐋𝐅 𝐁𝐄𝐑𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐌?
Investigating the validity of this rumor

The basis for the claim being smuggled around that a mass was held for Hitler in 1945 is rather trivial when we find out that the "order" was merely a draft mainly for those who died in WW2 and not specifically only for Hitler:

"On 21 January 1945, now eighty-six and bearing all the signs of old age, Cardinal Bertram had left Breslau on medical advice shortly before the encirclement of the city by Russian troops, and moved to Schloss Johannesberg near Lauering, an old residence of the Prince Bishops of Breslau. It is here that news of Hitler’s death must have reached him on the late evening of 1 May or the morning of 2 May. It ran: ‘From the Fuhrer's headquarters it is reported that our Fuhrer Adolf Hitler fell today for Germany at his command post in the Reich Chancellery, fighting against Bolshevism to his last breath.’ It was probably while the Cardinal was still under the immediate impact of this news, which there was no possibility of verifying, that he took up his pen. In his own hand he gave all the parish priests of the archdiocese instructions ‘to hold a solemn requiem in memory of the Fuhrer and all those members of the Wehrmacht who have fallen in the struggle for our German Fatherland, along with the sincerest prayers for Volk and Fatherland and for the future of the Catholic church in Germany’. The letter with these instructions in the Breslau archives bears neither date nor signature. But the Cardinal’s handwriting is unmistakable, and we can also be certain that it is dated after 1 May, after all the days of uncertainty (see front cover for a facsimile). We do not know whether the instructions were followed anywhere in Silesia or indeed whether it was possible for them to be handed on. [...] The letter with his instructions was struck through by another hand." [1]

Apart from the fact that there is lack of documentation surrounding it, the evidence suggests that it is rather unlikely that this order was truly sent out as Bertram died in June of 1945 and by the circumstances of a now fallen nation. Ronald J. Rychlak wrote on this saying:

"In point of fact, this is what we know: Bertram was elderly and ill when the war ended. When he died (just weeks later), his papers included a handwritten order scheduling a Requiem Mass for all Germans who died in the war, including Hitler (who was originally reported to have died while fighting), and for the protection of the Catholic Church in Germany. This order was never sent, and the Mass was never held. Bertams personal secretary later reported being unaware of this paper or any such proposed order. In fact, the order itself was crossed through with two broad strokes. In other words, the evidence suggests that someone (perhaps Bertram, but perhaps not) considered scheduling a Requiem Mass but that Bertram canceled it." [2]

To say that a "Catholic Mass" held for specifically Hitler definitely happened in 1945 would be rather misleading when we look at what the origins of its claim. There is no evidence that this mass was held at all.

Source:
[1] Scholder, Klaus. A Requiem for Hitler: And Other New Perspectives on the German Church Struggle. Translated by John Bowden, SCM Press / Trinity Press International, 1989 p.166
[2] Rychlak, Ronald J. "Goldhagen v. Pius XII." First Things, no. 124, June/July 2002, p. 37-54.

𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐀𝐋𝐋𝐈𝐄𝐃 𝐕𝐈𝐂𝐓𝐎𝐑𝐘 𝐎𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐅𝐀𝐈𝐓𝐇 𝐖𝐈𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐍 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐍𝐔𝐑𝐄𝐌𝐁𝐄𝐑𝐆 𝐓𝐑𝐈𝐀𝐋𝐒
In Honor of the fallen National Socialists

At the Nuremberg trails, the defendants awaiting the death penalty were exploited by their emotional distress at the thought of their life ending, with religion. Knowing this, the allies deployed military chaplains in attempts to convert the remaining defendants to christianity. Although some attempts (such as Goering, Rosenberg, Hess) were unsuccessful, the allies still managed to get a decent amount back to christianity. Here are only a few names:

Ernst Kaltenbrunner
Hans Frank
Wilhelm Frick
Baron von Neurath
Joachim von Ribbentrop
Wilhelm Keitel
Baldur von Schirach

Christianity was the only easy way out, promising life after death. We cannot blame the people themselves for succumbing to this foreign idea right before death, we can only blame the (((allies))) behind it. In fact, this event actually does us more justice in proving that many of these top men became christian only as a result of the Nuremberg trials.

IT WAS THROUGH CHRISTIANITY THAT MANY RENOUNCED THEIR AFFILIATION TO NATIONAL SOCIALSM. THE ALLIED CHRISTIAN PSYOP WORKED.

Images from the original article 'I Walked to the Gallows With the Nazi Chiefs' By Chaplain Henry F. Gerecke in The Saturday Evening Post, September 1, 1951, pages 17-19, 57-58

"HitlerLovedChrist" on twitter tries to refute the article written in the official HitlerYouth organ 'Willie und Macht" where it says:

"... under the sign of the swastika, the ancient Nordic symbol of life, and not under the sign of Golgotha, Germany celebrates its rebirth."

He claims this is a mistranslation when anyone can read the text. "Galgenkreuzes" and "unordnischen" are demonstrably very sloppy transcriptions that don't appear in the original text. The actual words used are "Hakenkreuzes" which means Swastika and "urnordischen" meaning ancient Nordic. In fact, if he bothered to use his eyes he can tell without any knowledge in German that the "H" is present since the word "Heidentums" at the end does the same thing.

Looks like he needs to use a better AI for his source since this is basically a concession of him not knowing how to read German. Whoever confronts him on his bullshit is instantly blocked. (see image)

This isn't in defense of "HitlerHatedChrist" since as National Socialists, we do not endorse him. This is in defense of the original Third Reich literature being cited. Furthermore, HitlerLovedChrist fails to address the endless literature which distances from christianity in both the HitlerYouth and the SS.

So who is really lying?

Was Hitler christian yes or no

lets talk about it

Direct answer: No.

Argument: He retained some elements linked to Christianity; for example, Hitler frequently cited biblical verses, directly or indirectly, and in particular the words of Christ. For example: "When I read the appeals of the National Committee of German Officers in Russia, I can only say: none of them have received any education; they have not the slightest idea of what they are doing. One can only say: Lord, forgive them, for they know not what they do! [1] They do not understand the crime they are committing and the misery into which they are plunging their people."

[1] - Hitler cites Luke 23:34, spoken by Christ at the crucifixion: "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

Source: Adolf Hitler's speech at the Wolf's Lair to field marshals and generals, January 27, 1944 (BArch NS 6/777), p. 46

This does not mean that he was Christian but that he retained several elements of it.

Citing biblical verses in itself doesn't show that he "retained" any christianity in the sense that he believed them to necessarily be true in the sense of being the word of God. Hitler cites plenty of metaphors which is mistakenly be taken as he was a Germanic pagan, yet I wouldnt cite Hitler constantly saying he thought of the "Gods/Goddesses" as ideas of fate as to mean he literally believed in Gods.

I'm not denying that Hitler's religious beliefs are mixed, but to say that Hitler truly believed in the bible would be incorrect based on what we currently have on him as Hitler was a very secretive person

Another example would be the ideological tradition of Hitler coming from specifically a line of anti-catholics. Yet despite that and Hitler knowing this, he still portrayed himself as vaguely catholic. This shows that this was a lie.

If Hitler lied about his religious beliefs in public then that in itself is one of the many arguments which proves he wasn't a christian.

We could say that he was influenced by the Bible. For example, in 1922 he used Christ's words: "He who is not with me is against me" as the basis for the party's intolerance.

This is already demonstrated by Hess's letter while they were in prison.

how about we move to Goebbels's diary

I think the following post puts a definitive end to the matter: https://t.me/Christmutt/136

can you extend the same gratitude towards Rosenberg's diaries? I can prove the same exact case for them just like this

I thought they were unreliable because of the Soviets but this post shows how identical they are. no changes, not even minimal

I don't think there's any need. If Goebbels' diaries have proven reliable, as you've posted over the years, Rosenberg's diaries are consequently reliable, since they confirm many of Goebbels' entries.

yeah he does

So, you are aware that your posts on Dalton's translation is pretty stupid right? To confirm accuracy you're supposed to compare it with the original text and not another translation. This method is commonly done with the bible as does any document ever.

the infamous passage on christianity in mein kampf is actually inaccurate in the stalag translation