𝐎𝐔𝐑 𝐁𝐔𝐑𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐂𝐄𝐑𝐍 𝐈𝐒 𝐎𝐔𝐑 𝐕𝐎𝐋𝐊
The National Socialist state endorses morality based on loyalty to the race

"When the Pope, in his encyclical, describes the situation of Catholics in Germany "Mit brennender Sorge," we state unequivocally that we, too, are filled "with burning concern." Our burning concern is the purity, health, and vitality of the millions of boys and girls who will one day be the men and women of our nation. We want these boys and girls not to be torn apart by denominational discord, not to be mentally and physically abused by false seducers, and not to be raised in a monastic, dull, clerical narrow-mindedness against the state, but rather for a generation to grow up strengthened by a robust morality, educated in love of homeland, loyalty to the people, trust in the state, and a worldview whose strength is continually renewed by the unbroken power of the coming generation."

Source: Hakenkreuzbanner: NS-Tageszeitung für Mannheim u. Nordbaden, Sonntag-Ausgabe 13.06.1937 p.4

SEE: GERMAN LAW ABOVE VATICAN LAW

𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐕𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐂𝐀𝐍 𝐑𝐄𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐃 𝐓𝐎 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐁𝐎𝐎𝐊 𝐎𝐍 𝐏𝐎𝐋𝐈𝐓𝐈𝐂𝐀𝐋 𝐂𝐀𝐓𝐇𝐎𝐋𝐈𝐂𝐈𝐒𝐌
Arguments against the book Die große Lüge des politischen Katholizismus from the Vatican Radio

Reports from Sicherheitsdienst surveillance documented a piece in October 29, 1938 of the Vatican saying the following:

"Dieter Schwarz has published a pamphlet with the NSDAP's central publishing house in Berlin entitled "The Great Lie of Political Catholicism." This is a shoddy piece of work that, in itself, wouldn't deserve any serious attention. However, since the text is clearly written for propaganda purposes and launches an outrageous attack on Catholicism as a whole, we will briefly examine it this evening. Right in the opening sentences, the reader is informed of the lie referred to in the title. It states: "For five years now, the foreign atrocity propaganda against Germany has been reporting on the persecution of Christians in National Socialist Germany, on the suppression of religion, the stifling of all religious activity, and the systematic promotion of godlessness in National Socialist Germany." So much for the first sentence, and the second immediately identifies who is accused of lying. It states that the church leaders, both large and small, in Germany and around the world, as well as the highest echelons of the Catholic Church in Rome, meet here in a peculiar and rare unanimity, often in complete agreement of words and details presented, with the international propaganda of lies against Germany that otherwise flows from Jewish-Marxist sources. Pastors write, Catholic newspapers, speeches, and circulars from the highest church authorities breathe the spirit of this political incitement. Two claims are thus made: 1) The persecution of the Church in Germany is a lie, and 2) the liars are the princes of the Church. Naturally, one is now eager to see how the author proves his accusations. The reader takes it for granted that the author will systematically examine the claims of the Pope and the bishops and demonstrate that they are not based on truth. But here, one is immediately disappointed. Not the slightest attempt is made to refute even one of the many precisely defined complaints of the bishops. It is not even known whether the author is familiar with the bishops' statements or has ever bothered to read the pastoral letters. It is clear, therefore, that the writer has taken the easy way out. [...] Why does the author say nothing about the enormous promotion of the movement to leave the Church, about the dismantling of almost all Catholic organizations, about the flooding of the entire country with unprecedentedly inflammatory, anti-Church literature, about the ruthless closure of denominational schools, about the confiscation of papal and episcopal pastoral letters, about the police searches of episcopal offices, about the anti-Christian propaganda in state organizations, etc.? The author of the pamphlet probably knows why he is concealing these things."

Source: BArch NS 2/64 Überwachung des Vatikansenders (Bericht des Chefs der Sicherheitspolizei und des SD) p.404-406

SEE: THE ATTITUDE OF THE VATICAN TOWARDS NS GERMANY

𝐖𝐇𝐘 𝐖𝐀𝐒 𝐄𝐕𝐎𝐋𝐀'𝐒 𝐖𝐎𝐑𝐊𝐒 𝐑𝐄𝐉𝐄𝐂𝐓𝐄𝐃?
Investigating the purpose of why NS_Heathenry_Exposed flaunts this report

Even when we look at their own post, it states EXACTLY why he was rejected: "His political plans for a Romano-Germanic Imperium are of a utopian character". Yet, any type of relevance towards Evola in this context was because he was not a christian.

The Truth: Evola was rejected for his Anti-NS ideas, not simply because of 'paganism' in itself.

In Evola's "Pagan Imperialism", he writes that:

"The error of certain race fanatics who think that the reintegration of a race in its ethnic unity signifies ipso facto the rebirth of a people, lives exactly here: they regard man as if he could be regarded as horses, cats, or dogs of a ‘pure breed’. The preservation or the restoration of the purity of race in the narrowest sense, can be everything in an animal, but not in man - in the man of superior type: even for man, it can constitute a condition which may be necessary under certain aspects, is not sufficient in any case, since the racial factor is not the only one which defines man. [...] The aristocratic idea of a tradition of Leaders - NOT the democratic or “nationalist” idea, which depends upon the mere community of blood, soil, and birth - must be the foundation and axis of every doctrine of race rightly understood - of our restoration."

In the later published book 'Notes on the Third Reich', Evola provides his own analysis of National Socialism. Here, his critique of core NS doctrines are no different:

"In the second place, when dealing with Fascism, we have already recognised the legitimacy that could be offered by the ideal of a new, superior human type at the centre of a general process of crystallisation, rectification and formation of a nation’s substance, on the condition that we do not excessively emphasise the biological aspect in this ideal, but only if we particularly stress the ‘race of the spirit.’ Instead, in National Socialist racism it was precisely this biological aspect that played a significant role and indulged in wishful thinking by means of a ‘scientistic’ mental deformation, when it was thought that all that had to be done was to discover prophylaxis and erect barriers against crossbreeding and miscegenation, along with more eugenic measures, so that lost virtues would reappear, the idea being that, almost automatically, man would arise again as the creator of a higher culture."

"Not only the ancient German traditions, but also the very concept of Reich and, as we shall see, the concept of race were brought by Hitler to the level of the masses, which implied their degradation and distortion."

Head of the Office of Racial Policy Walther Groß made clear the importance of the racial doctrine:

"All of this is necessary, not for the sake of some theoretical-intellectual nonsense, but to give people back the connection with the great laws of life, the understanding and the inner growth into the primitive but ultimately great sensations and feelings of the living human being that sustain life itself. All of this is necessary. However, an attitude to life that is geared towards the newly discovered laws of life of race, blood and soil is not just a matter for the parlor scholar, not a matter that is only presented at the lectern, about which one only writes in a book, which one only speaks about on the radio, about which one only makes laws - but it is a matter that concerns us all and every single one of us, day by day and hour by hour of our entire lives. Because on this question, whether it will be possible to give the people, all of us and everyone else outside, a new purpose in life, the future ultimately lies before us and our children."

Based on this, it makes perfect sense why Julius Evola was rejected. This is so easily clear to anyone who has actually read through his works.

Source:
[1] Pagan Imperialism by Julius Evola
[2] Notes On The Third Reich by Julius Evola
[3] Der Schulungsbrief #4 1939 "Volk und Rasse" von Dr Walther Groß

𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐍𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐎𝐍𝐀𝐋 𝐒𝐎𝐂𝐈𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐒𝐓 𝐖𝐀𝐑 𝐎𝐍 𝐉𝐄𝐒𝐔𝐈𝐓𝐈𝐒𝐌

«Furthermore, at Munich, on 23 April 1935, the Gestapo had sent out confidential instructions on how to handle the Jesuits. Entitled "Safeguarding against the Jesuits,” the document called attention to the Jesuit opposition to the Nazis in their public statements. "These lectures, moreover, are so ambiguously and cunningly composed that a juridical punishment of the lecturer is possible in only very few cases," stated the police instruction [...] By 1939, then, the Jesuit schools, like all religious schools, had been deprived of state recognition and support. Rather than operate schools dedicated to the principles of National Socialism, the Jesuits realized that they would more effectively thwart the influence of the Hitler-Jugend by ceasing to operate under the new conditions. [...] One should not forget that the seminaries of the Society of Jesus in Frankfurt, Pullach and Valkenburg were all restricted in their operations either directly by the Nazis or by the circumstances of the war. Likewise, in 1941, the Nazis had put an end to the Jesuit residences at Aachen, Berlin, Bonn, Cologne, Diisseldorf, Essen, Hoheneichen, Mittelsteine, Munich and Miinster. By this time, the Nazis were successfully implementing their harsh decrees against the church and its religious groups.»

From: Lapomarda, Vincent A. The Jesuits and the Third Reich. Edwin Mellen Press, 1989. p.13, 15, 21

SEE: DISMISSAL OF JESUITS FROM THE WEHRMACHT

If we are to reject every source for being a recollection according to our opponents then why do these same opponents cite memoirs to prove Hitler's thinking? Because they are dishonest. What we can easily demonstrate is the corroboration of other independent sources which report the same exact thing. This is not only applied just to Hitler's religion, but across the board with his beliefs.

We primarily use contemporary sources in conjunction with memoirs of those who lived in the Third Reich to further expand on what we already knew. This is as scholarly as it gets. We do not rely merely on a post-war consensus of people that say "Hitler was X", we rely on the eyewitness testimonies from so many people that knew Hitler and his own writings which report the same thing. Primary sources are important.

"That is the reason why in this study we constantly cite many references – sometimes even very similar ones – from the most varied sources as proofs of the opinions Hitler held on various subjects. While in certain instances this might detract from the readability of the study, even though many parallel citations are only referred to in the notes, we believed it to be important that we support Hitler’s previously less well-known opinions on various topics in such detail as to clearly demonstrate to the reader that these are not randomly selected statements which are atypical for Hitler, but rather statements which represent his thinking. The material for our study is therefore primarily Hitler’s speeches, writings and ‘conversations’. Besides the known printed sources such as Mein Kampf, Hitler’s ‘Second Book’, the ‘Complete Recordings 1905– 1924’ and the ‘table talks’, our study is based on the still unpublished Hitler speeches and articles of 1925–32, as well as numerous speeches made between 1933 and 1945 which were not taken into account in the Domarus collection on which most investigations are based."

— Historian Rainer Zitelmann, in Hitler's National Socialism. Management Books 2000, (2022).

Only someone who is against Hitler or the Third Reich would oppose using the sources from it's time.

𝐏𝐑𝐄-𝐕𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐂𝐀𝐍 𝐈𝐈 𝐒𝐎𝐔𝐑𝐂𝐄 𝐎𝐍 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐌𝐈𝐓 𝐁𝐑𝐄𝐍𝐍𝐄𝐍𝐃𝐄𝐑 𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐆𝐄
Destroying the common cope of citing Adrien Arcand

The official Vatican newspaper "L'Osservatore Romano", in which Pius XII was still alive and as pope, in 1945 published an article directly addressing the relationship between the Vatican and National Socialism from their perspective. The Vatican wrote that the infamous Mit Brennender Sorge encyclical was in fact targeting National Socialism as race idolatry:

"In those critical years, combining the attentive vigilance of the Pastor with the patient forbearance of the Father, Our great Predecessor Pius XI carried out his mission as Supreme Pontiff with intrepid fortitude. However, when, having tried in vain all the ways of persuasion, he saw himself clearly faced with the deliberate violations of a solemn pact and with a religious persecution, concealed or overt, but always harshly conducted, on Passion Sunday 1937, in his Encyclical «Mit brennender Sorge», he revealed to the eyes of the world what National Socialism really was: the proud apostasy from Jesus Christ, the denial of his doctrine and his redemptive work, the cult of force, the idolatry of race..."

Yet we're supposed to take Adrien Arcand's word for it saying the opposite instead of citing the Vatican? How stupid.

Source: L'Osservatore Romano della Domenica. "Il Santo Padre, rievocando le sofferenze gloriose della Chiesa perseguitata, addita all'umanità le vie della Pace degna di Dio e degli uomini." Città del Vaticano, 10 Giugno 1945, Anno XII, N. 23 (578), p.2

𝐍𝐒_𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐫𝐲_𝐄𝐱𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐬 𝐋𝐘𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐊𝐚𝐫𝐥 𝐖𝐨𝐥𝐟𝐟'𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐢𝐞𝐰 𝐨𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐧
Fruitless source denial brutally debunked

NSHE get's wrong on so many things such as the date of the interview, the source of it, Karl Wolff's voice, etc, despite the fact that all of the sourcing is in the original post for anyone to research. Karl Wolff did in fact say that Hitler saw Christianity as a disease.

NS Heathenry cited the original raw audio of the interview for clarity on the full context and wording of what Karl Wolff said. As for the supposed "interviews" from mourningtheancient that they cite, see this.

NSHE is proven wrong yet again. Time after time.

𝐒𝐔𝐏𝐏𝐎𝐒𝐄𝐃 '𝐌𝐀𝐒𝐒' 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐇𝐈𝐓𝐋𝐄𝐑 𝐅𝐑𝐎𝐌 𝐀𝐃𝐎𝐋𝐅 𝐁𝐄𝐑𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐌?
Investigating the validity of this rumor

The basis for the claim being smuggled around that a mass was held for Hitler in 1945 is rather trivial when we find out that the "order" was merely a draft mainly for those who died in WW2 and not specifically only for Hitler:

"On 21 January 1945, now eighty-six and bearing all the signs of old age, Cardinal Bertram had left Breslau on medical advice shortly before the encirclement of the city by Russian troops, and moved to Schloss Johannesberg near Lauering, an old residence of the Prince Bishops of Breslau. It is here that news of Hitler’s death must have reached him on the late evening of 1 May or the morning of 2 May. It ran: ‘From the Fuhrer's headquarters it is reported that our Fuhrer Adolf Hitler fell today for Germany at his command post in the Reich Chancellery, fighting against Bolshevism to his last breath.’ It was probably while the Cardinal was still under the immediate impact of this news, which there was no possibility of verifying, that he took up his pen. In his own hand he gave all the parish priests of the archdiocese instructions ‘to hold a solemn requiem in memory of the Fuhrer and all those members of the Wehrmacht who have fallen in the struggle for our German Fatherland, along with the sincerest prayers for Volk and Fatherland and for the future of the Catholic church in Germany’. The letter with these instructions in the Breslau archives bears neither date nor signature. But the Cardinal’s handwriting is unmistakable, and we can also be certain that it is dated after 1 May, after all the days of uncertainty (see front cover for a facsimile). We do not know whether the instructions were followed anywhere in Silesia or indeed whether it was possible for them to be handed on. [...] The letter with his instructions was struck through by another hand." [1]

Apart from the fact that there is lack of documentation surrounding it, the evidence suggests that it is rather unlikely that this order was truly sent out as Bertram died in June of 1945 and by the circumstances of a now fallen nation. Ronald J. Rychlak wrote on this saying:

"In point of fact, this is what we know: Bertram was elderly and ill when the war ended. When he died (just weeks later), his papers included a handwritten order scheduling a Requiem Mass for all Germans who died in the war, including Hitler (who was originally reported to have died while fighting), and for the protection of the Catholic Church in Germany. This order was never sent, and the Mass was never held. Bertams personal secretary later reported being unaware of this paper or any such proposed order. In fact, the order itself was crossed through with two broad strokes. In other words, the evidence suggests that someone (perhaps Bertram, but perhaps not) considered scheduling a Requiem Mass but that Bertram canceled it." [2]

To say that a "Catholic Mass" held for specifically Hitler definitely happened in 1945 would be rather misleading when we look at what the origins of its claim. There is no evidence that this mass was held at all.

Source:
[1] Scholder, Klaus. A Requiem for Hitler: And Other New Perspectives on the German Church Struggle. Translated by John Bowden, SCM Press / Trinity Press International, 1989 p.166
[2] Rychlak, Ronald J. "Goldhagen v. Pius XII." First Things, no. 124, June/July 2002, p. 37-54.

𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐀𝐋𝐋𝐈𝐄𝐃 𝐕𝐈𝐂𝐓𝐎𝐑𝐘 𝐎𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐅𝐀𝐈𝐓𝐇 𝐖𝐈𝐓𝐇𝐈𝐍 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐍𝐔𝐑𝐄𝐌𝐁𝐄𝐑𝐆 𝐓𝐑𝐈𝐀𝐋𝐒
In Honor of the fallen National Socialists

At the Nuremberg trails, the defendants awaiting the death penalty were exploited by their emotional distress at the thought of their life ending, with religion. Knowing this, the allies deployed military chaplains in attempts to convert the remaining defendants to christianity. Although some attempts (such as Goering, Rosenberg, Hess) were unsuccessful, the allies still managed to get a decent amount back to christianity. Here are only a few names:

Ernst Kaltenbrunner
Hans Frank
Wilhelm Frick
Baron von Neurath
Joachim von Ribbentrop
Wilhelm Keitel
Baldur von Schirach

Christianity was the only easy way out, promising life after death. We cannot blame the people themselves for succumbing to this foreign idea right before death, we can only blame the (((allies))) behind it. In fact, this event actually does us more justice in proving that many of these top men became christian only as a result of the Nuremberg trials.

IT WAS THROUGH CHRISTIANITY THAT MANY RENOUNCED THEIR AFFILIATION TO NATIONAL SOCIALSM. THE ALLIED CHRISTIAN PSYOP WORKED.

Images from the original article 'I Walked to the Gallows With the Nazi Chiefs' By Chaplain Henry F. Gerecke in The Saturday Evening Post, September 1, 1951, pages 17-19, 57-58

"HitlerLovedChrist" on twitter tries to refute the article written in the official HitlerYouth organ 'Willie und Macht" where it says:

"... under the sign of the swastika, the ancient Nordic symbol of life, and not under the sign of Golgotha, Germany celebrates its rebirth."

He claims this is a mistranslation when anyone can read the text. "Galgenkreuzes" and "unordnischen" are demonstrably very sloppy transcriptions that don't appear in the original text. The actual words used are "Hakenkreuzes" which means Swastika and "urnordischen" meaning ancient Nordic. In fact, if he bothered to use his eyes he can tell without any knowledge in German that the "H" is present since the word "Heidentums" at the end does the same thing.

Looks like he needs to use a better AI for his source since this is basically a concession of him not knowing how to read German. Whoever confronts him on his bullshit is instantly blocked. (see image)

This isn't in defense of "HitlerHatedChrist" since as National Socialists, we do not endorse him. This is in defense of the original Third Reich literature being cited. Furthermore, HitlerLovedChrist fails to address the endless literature which distances from christianity in both the HitlerYouth and the SS.

So who is really lying?

Was Hitler christian yes or no

lets talk about it

Direct answer: No.

Argument: He retained some elements linked to Christianity; for example, Hitler frequently cited biblical verses, directly or indirectly, and in particular the words of Christ. For example: "When I read the appeals of the National Committee of German Officers in Russia, I can only say: none of them have received any education; they have not the slightest idea of what they are doing. One can only say: Lord, forgive them, for they know not what they do! [1] They do not understand the crime they are committing and the misery into which they are plunging their people."

[1] - Hitler cites Luke 23:34, spoken by Christ at the crucifixion: "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

Source: Adolf Hitler's speech at the Wolf's Lair to field marshals and generals, January 27, 1944 (BArch NS 6/777), p. 46

This does not mean that he was Christian but that he retained several elements of it.

Citing biblical verses in itself doesn't show that he "retained" any christianity in the sense that he believed them to necessarily be true in the sense of being the word of God. Hitler cites plenty of metaphors which is mistakenly be taken as he was a Germanic pagan, yet I wouldnt cite Hitler constantly saying he thought of the "Gods/Goddesses" as ideas of fate as to mean he literally believed in Gods.

I'm not denying that Hitler's religious beliefs are mixed, but to say that Hitler truly believed in the bible would be incorrect based on what we currently have on him as Hitler was a very secretive person

Another example would be the ideological tradition of Hitler coming from specifically a line of anti-catholics. Yet despite that and Hitler knowing this, he still portrayed himself as vaguely catholic. This shows that this was a lie.

If Hitler lied about his religious beliefs in public then that in itself is one of the many arguments which proves he wasn't a christian.

We could say that he was influenced by the Bible. For example, in 1922 he used Christ's words: "He who is not with me is against me" as the basis for the party's intolerance.

This is already demonstrated by Hess's letter while they were in prison.

how about we move to Goebbels's diary

I think the following post puts a definitive end to the matter: https://t.me/Christmutt/136

can you extend the same gratitude towards Rosenberg's diaries? I can prove the same exact case for them just like this