О ДИСКРИМИНАЦИИ РОССИЙСКИХ УЧЁНЫХ НА НЕМЕЦКОМ ЯЗЫКЕ
https://de.rt.com/international/205096-neue-hass-runde-russische-wissenschaftler/
https://de.rt.com/international/205096-neue-hass-runde-russische-wissenschaftler/
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Neue Hass-Runde: Russische Wissenschaftler werden gezwungen, sich von ihrem Land loszusagen
Im Westen verfolgt man derzeit nicht nur die russischen Sportler und Künstler, sondern auch die Wissenschaftler. Auf internationalen Konferenzen werden sie gebeten, ihre Zugehörigkeit zu Russland geheim zu halten.
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БЕНГАЛЬСКИЕ ОГНИ
в честь 10-летия нашего Льва.
в честь 10-летия нашего Льва.
ДИСКРИМИНАЦИЯ РОССИЙСКИХ УЧЁНЫХ
и протест российского МИДа. Все правильно - нельзя давать себя унижать.
https://tass.ru/politika/20707771
и протест российского МИДа. Все правильно - нельзя давать себя унижать.
https://tass.ru/politika/20707771
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Захарова: дискриминация российских геологов на съезде в Пусане наносит ущерб науке
По словам официального представителя МИД РФ, масштаб этого ущерба и последствия для будущего сложно оценить
И ЕЩЁ О ДИСКРИМИНАЦИИ
Я потребовал отставки президента IUGS.
Igc

Artem Oganov
Mon 5/13/2024 8:13 PM
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John Ludden <jnludden@gmail.com>;
secretariat <secretariat@iugs.org>;
...
Dear Prof. Ludden,
As you may have seen, the discrimination of Russian scientists at the IGC is now very public and the reputational damage is likely to be long lasting.
I have discovered two interesting things:
1. Just today I received a confirmation from Russian Academy of Sciences that they have not received from you any messages that you want to pause your membership in RAS. I am not sure why you misinformed everyone about this, and why you have not included yourself in your sanctions against Russia. I guess this would make your CV look worse.
2. A colleague drew my attention to the fact that your anti-Russian policies are illegal, as they contradict the Statutes and by-laws of the IUGS (article 1, https://www.iugs.org/_files/ugd/f1fc07_a11ee6d2eaae410a95681ae188d916f7.pdf):
“The aims of the Union are … (e) promoting participation of geoscientists in international endeavours regardless of race, citizenship, language, political stance or gender, and (f) encouraging international cooperation in meeting the geoscientific needs of any country or region".
It is clear that your values are incompatible with the declared values of the IUGS, and in my opinion you should resign from the position of IUGS President to prevent further damage and conflict of values.
Я потребовал отставки президента IUGS.
Igc

Artem Oganov
Mon 5/13/2024 8:13 PM
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To:
John Ludden <jnludden@gmail.com>;
secretariat <secretariat@iugs.org>;
...
Dear Prof. Ludden,
As you may have seen, the discrimination of Russian scientists at the IGC is now very public and the reputational damage is likely to be long lasting.
I have discovered two interesting things:
1. Just today I received a confirmation from Russian Academy of Sciences that they have not received from you any messages that you want to pause your membership in RAS. I am not sure why you misinformed everyone about this, and why you have not included yourself in your sanctions against Russia. I guess this would make your CV look worse.
2. A colleague drew my attention to the fact that your anti-Russian policies are illegal, as they contradict the Statutes and by-laws of the IUGS (article 1, https://www.iugs.org/_files/ugd/f1fc07_a11ee6d2eaae410a95681ae188d916f7.pdf):
“The aims of the Union are … (e) promoting participation of geoscientists in international endeavours regardless of race, citizenship, language, political stance or gender, and (f) encouraging international cooperation in meeting the geoscientific needs of any country or region".
It is clear that your values are incompatible with the declared values of the IUGS, and in my opinion you should resign from the position of IUGS President to prevent further damage and conflict of values.
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Меньше недели остаётся до окончания приёма заявок на Национальную премию в области будущих технологий «ВЫЗОВ»
Премиальный фонд увеличен и теперь составляет 55 миллионов рублей.
У премии «ВЫЗОВ» нет деления на дисциплины. Научный комитет определит лауреатов в 5 номинациях:
«Перспектива», «Учёный года», «Инженерное решение», «Прорыв» и Discovery («Открытие») – в последней заявки принимаются от учёных со всего мира.
Председатель Научного комитета Премии «ВЫЗОВ» Артём Оганов отметил: «Мы хотим создать лучшую научную премию в мире: авторитетную, объективную, с высочайшим уровнем заявок. Мы смело замахнулись на такую амбициозную цель. И я хочу пожелать смелости учёным – не бояться выдвигать свои работы, рассказывать всему миру о своих достижениях».
Подать заявку можно до 20 мая включительно на сайте премиявызов.рф
Пусть Россия гордится наукой!
Премиальный фонд увеличен и теперь составляет 55 миллионов рублей.
У премии «ВЫЗОВ» нет деления на дисциплины. Научный комитет определит лауреатов в 5 номинациях:
«Перспектива», «Учёный года», «Инженерное решение», «Прорыв» и Discovery («Открытие») – в последней заявки принимаются от учёных со всего мира.
Председатель Научного комитета Премии «ВЫЗОВ» Артём Оганов отметил: «Мы хотим создать лучшую научную премию в мире: авторитетную, объективную, с высочайшим уровнем заявок. Мы смело замахнулись на такую амбициозную цель. И я хочу пожелать смелости учёным – не бояться выдвигать свои работы, рассказывать всему миру о своих достижениях».
Подать заявку можно до 20 мая включительно на сайте премиявызов.рф
Пусть Россия гордится наукой!
ЗНАЕТЕ ЛИ ВЫ,
что слово "герметичный" происходит от имени древнего синкретического божества Гермеса Трисмегиста (сочетающего в себе черты черты египетского бога Тота и греческого бога Гермеса).
Многие считали Гермеса Трисмегиста реальным древним мудрецом, "которому приписывают изобретение способа закупорки сосудов".
что слово "герметичный" происходит от имени древнего синкретического божества Гермеса Трисмегиста (сочетающего в себе черты черты египетского бога Тота и греческого бога Гермеса).
Многие считали Гермеса Трисмегиста реальным древним мудрецом, "которому приписывают изобретение способа закупорки сосудов".
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НАШИ ДАЧНЫЕ ОПЫТЫ
(детали и более полные видео, а также множество других опытов в нашем сообществе https://vk.com/oganov_lab)
(детали и более полные видео, а также множество других опытов в нашем сообществе https://vk.com/oganov_lab)
ОЧЕНЬ ГРУСТНОЕ
и, увы, предельно правдивое, видео о том, как устроена система науки в мире. И о том, как замечательный физик Сабине Хоссенфельдер решила уйти из академической науки - и заняться популяризацией науки (кстати, ее канал на ютьюбе я всячески рекомендую).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LKiBlGDfRU8&pp=ygUOU2FiaW5lIGZhaWxlZCA%3D
и, увы, предельно правдивое, видео о том, как устроена система науки в мире. И о том, как замечательный физик Сабине Хоссенфельдер решила уйти из академической науки - и заняться популяризацией науки (кстати, ее канал на ютьюбе я всячески рекомендую).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LKiBlGDfRU8&pp=ygUOU2FiaW5lIGZhaWxlZCA%3D
ПРАВИЛЬНО ЛИ Я ПОНИМАЮ,
что светочи демократии, люди с хорошими лицами и друзья Украины, сразу после взрыва "Северных потоков" и покушения на премьер-министра Словакии также убили президента Ирана?
Терроризм во имя свободы и демократии - как мило. Вообще, надо быть непробиваемо тупым, чтобы не видеть, кто в сегодняшнем мире является концентратом абсолютного зла.
что светочи демократии, люди с хорошими лицами и друзья Украины, сразу после взрыва "Северных потоков" и покушения на премьер-министра Словакии также убили президента Ирана?
Терроризм во имя свободы и демократии - как мило. Вообще, надо быть непробиваемо тупым, чтобы не видеть, кто в сегодняшнем мире является концентратом абсолютного зла.
ОЧЕНЬ ПРИЯТНО,
что самый маленький (и самый любимый) город Подмосковья так ко мне относится.
что самый маленький (и самый любимый) город Подмосковья так ко мне относится.
МУЗЫКАЛЬНАЯ ПАУЗА
Кстати, эта певица - мать Греты Тунберг. А сама эта песня заняла удивительно низкое место на Евровидении - там, видимо, предпочитают разных извращенцев и фриков.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5WH2OwJeMBE&pp=ygUHTGEgdm9peA%3D%3D
Кстати, эта певица - мать Греты Тунберг. А сама эта песня заняла удивительно низкое место на Евровидении - там, видимо, предпочитают разных извращенцев и фриков.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5WH2OwJeMBE&pp=ygUHTGEgdm9peA%3D%3D
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БОРЬБА С ДИСКРИМИНАЦИЕЙ
Публикую всю переписку с пока ещё Президентом Международного Союза Наук о Земле (IUGS). В последнем письме, адресованном всему Исполнительному Комитету IUGS, я потребовал отмены всех дискриминационных решений IUGS и отставки нынешнего Президента Дж. Ладдена, который провёл эти дискриминационные решения и солгал о том, что приостановил своё членство в РАН. Все письма приводятся без изменений – в данном посте я лишь заменил на ***** свой источник информации в РАН.
Dear colleagues,
I was invited with a keynote lecture to the IGC at Busan, registered and submitted my abstract (which was accepted), but then received from an Organizing Committee an email demanding that I remove my Russian affiliation - this is both a request to commit fraud (which lying about affiliation is) and a manifestation of discrimination of scientists based in Russia. I found that the same request was sent to all scientists with Russian affiliation. I have received an email from John Ludden, current IUGS President, explaining that by humiliating and discriminating Russian scientists he hopes that these scientists will put pressure on Putin to stop the war in Ukraine. He wrote that IUGS Executive accepted these discriminatory rules unanimously, and also wrote that he (being a Foreign member of Russian Academy of Sciences) put his membership of RAS on hold. Please see my correspondence with Professor Ludden below.
The discrimination of Russian scientists has become very public, greatly damaging the reputation of the IUGS within Russia and to some extent outside. Moreover, it contradicts article 1 of the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS itself:
“The aims of the Union are … (e) promoting participation of geoscientists in international endeavours regardless of race, citizenship, language, political stance or gender, and (f) encouraging international cooperation in meeting the geoscientific needs of any country or region".
Any war is terrible (this includes US-UK-led invasions of Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan and countless other countries - and none of these were condemned by the IUGS), but science should be above politics and unite scientists, and the quote above states this clearly.
I request the IUGS Executive to end discrimination of Russian scientists reversing all discriminatory decisions. I also request the resignation of John Ludden from the position of IUGS President for two reasons:
1. Professor Ludden has damaged the IUGS, pursuing discrimination and violating the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS.
2. Professor Ludden has lied about the pause in his membership of Russian Academy of Sciences. Even in his words, he paused it one year after the war started and discriminatory decisions were taken. However, all pages of Prof. Ludden (see below) indicate that his membership is active. Moreover, ******* told me that he had personally investigated the case and found absolutely no messages from Prof. Ludden requesting a pause.
Cordially yours,
Artem R. Oganov PhD DSci FRSC FCAcad MAE
________________________________________
From: Artem Oganov
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 1:02 PM
To: John Ludden
Subject: Re: Igc
1- I wrote the truth. Discrimination is an absolute evil and has no place in science.
2- RAS never expels people - that's their rule. But they are really disappointed by your actions, and I expect that not many people in RAS will want to talk to you. All RAS people I talked to, including the anti-war and anti-government ones, feel betrayed and humiliated by you. Anyway, regardless of what RAS does, you have indeed lied about pausing your affiliation with RAS.
3- I am not obsessing at all, but I have the habit of getting things done. For me this keynote lecture would be my 80th+ keynote lecture, so it's not a big loss for me. However, fighting discrimination is important, and I shall not stop.
John, please resign. Or admit that discrimination was an error and stop discrimination. These are the only two honorable ways out for you.
Публикую всю переписку с пока ещё Президентом Международного Союза Наук о Земле (IUGS). В последнем письме, адресованном всему Исполнительному Комитету IUGS, я потребовал отмены всех дискриминационных решений IUGS и отставки нынешнего Президента Дж. Ладдена, который провёл эти дискриминационные решения и солгал о том, что приостановил своё членство в РАН. Все письма приводятся без изменений – в данном посте я лишь заменил на ***** свой источник информации в РАН.
Dear colleagues,
I was invited with a keynote lecture to the IGC at Busan, registered and submitted my abstract (which was accepted), but then received from an Organizing Committee an email demanding that I remove my Russian affiliation - this is both a request to commit fraud (which lying about affiliation is) and a manifestation of discrimination of scientists based in Russia. I found that the same request was sent to all scientists with Russian affiliation. I have received an email from John Ludden, current IUGS President, explaining that by humiliating and discriminating Russian scientists he hopes that these scientists will put pressure on Putin to stop the war in Ukraine. He wrote that IUGS Executive accepted these discriminatory rules unanimously, and also wrote that he (being a Foreign member of Russian Academy of Sciences) put his membership of RAS on hold. Please see my correspondence with Professor Ludden below.
The discrimination of Russian scientists has become very public, greatly damaging the reputation of the IUGS within Russia and to some extent outside. Moreover, it contradicts article 1 of the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS itself:
“The aims of the Union are … (e) promoting participation of geoscientists in international endeavours regardless of race, citizenship, language, political stance or gender, and (f) encouraging international cooperation in meeting the geoscientific needs of any country or region".
Any war is terrible (this includes US-UK-led invasions of Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan and countless other countries - and none of these were condemned by the IUGS), but science should be above politics and unite scientists, and the quote above states this clearly.
I request the IUGS Executive to end discrimination of Russian scientists reversing all discriminatory decisions. I also request the resignation of John Ludden from the position of IUGS President for two reasons:
1. Professor Ludden has damaged the IUGS, pursuing discrimination and violating the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS.
2. Professor Ludden has lied about the pause in his membership of Russian Academy of Sciences. Even in his words, he paused it one year after the war started and discriminatory decisions were taken. However, all pages of Prof. Ludden (see below) indicate that his membership is active. Moreover, ******* told me that he had personally investigated the case and found absolutely no messages from Prof. Ludden requesting a pause.
Cordially yours,
Artem R. Oganov PhD DSci FRSC FCAcad MAE
________________________________________
From: Artem Oganov
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 1:02 PM
To: John Ludden
Subject: Re: Igc
1- I wrote the truth. Discrimination is an absolute evil and has no place in science.
2- RAS never expels people - that's their rule. But they are really disappointed by your actions, and I expect that not many people in RAS will want to talk to you. All RAS people I talked to, including the anti-war and anti-government ones, feel betrayed and humiliated by you. Anyway, regardless of what RAS does, you have indeed lied about pausing your affiliation with RAS.
3- I am not obsessing at all, but I have the habit of getting things done. For me this keynote lecture would be my 80th+ keynote lecture, so it's not a big loss for me. However, fighting discrimination is important, and I shall not stop.
John, please resign. Or admit that discrimination was an error and stop discrimination. These are the only two honorable ways out for you.
Cordially yours,
Artem R. Oganov PhD DSci FRSC FCAcad MAE
________________________________________
From: John Ludden <jnludden@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 12:51 PM
To: Artem Oganov
Subject: Re: Igc
Pretty strong accusations … lied to my community !
You are clearly obsessing
If the RAS would like to expel me why not ask them
John Ludden
President
International Union of Geological Sciences IUGS
On 16 May 2024, at 11:12, Artem Oganov <A.Oganov@skoltech.ru> wrote:
Dear Prof. Ludden,
The case of discrimination of Russian scientists has indeed become very public, you can easily google "IUGS discrimination Oganov", and see numerous search results, and in Russian their number is particularly large (I can send you links, if you like). As far as I can see, the reputation of the IUGS is basically ruined by you, and the best thing you can do is resign from the position of a President of the IUGS. Let me explain a few particular points:
1. In your words, you have paused your membership in Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS) one year after the start of the war and your "sanctions". However, even this is not true:
(a) ******* personally checked all archives, and found no message from you to anyone in RAS, regarding your pause of membership.
(b) absolutely none of your pages reflect the "pause" in your RAS membership. On the contrary, your active RAS membership is mentioned in
-your Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ludden_(geologist)
-your page in the Royal Society of Edinburgh: https://rse.org.uk/fellowship/professor-john-ludden/
-your page in Russian Academy of Sciences: https://new.ras.ru/staff/inostrannyy-chlen-ran/ludden-dzhon/
2. I have quoted the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS, which clearly state that the mission of the IUGS is to work with all countries, and you have violated this:
“The aims of the Union are … (e) promoting participation of geoscientists in international endeavours regardless of race, citizenship, language, political stance or gender, and (f) encouraging international cooperation in meeting the geoscientific needs of any country or region".
3. The IUGS has not imposed any "sanctions" against scientists from the US, UK, and numerous other countries invading other countries multiple times. Such "sanctions" would violate the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS, but would at least make your position consistent. As it stands, the special treatment of Russian scientists by you and IUGS amounts to discrimination.
4. Your stated aim that by "affecting" Russian scientists (i.e. by discriminating and humiliating them) you will force them to put pressure on RAS and on Russian government, amazes me by complete lack of common sense. If I humiliate you, would this make you put pressure on king Charles III to stop all these illegal British invasions of other countries? It would be extremely naive to expect this.
Your final point that my request for your resignation is "highly unprofessional" is emotionally understandable, but I must reiterate my request. You have lied to the community about your RAS affiliation, and you have violated the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS. You have damaged the reputation of the IUGS, and you have to go. On my part, I shall continue my efforts to free science from any discrimination.
Cordially yours,
Artem R. Oganov PhD DSci FRSC FCAcad MAE
________________________________________
From: John Ludden <jnludden@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:36 AM
To: Artem Oganov
Cc: secretariat; 정대교; Stan Finney; Hiroshi Kitazato; 정대교
Subject: Re: Igc
Dear Professor Oganov
In reply to your mail.
Artem R. Oganov PhD DSci FRSC FCAcad MAE
________________________________________
From: John Ludden <jnludden@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 12:51 PM
To: Artem Oganov
Subject: Re: Igc
Pretty strong accusations … lied to my community !
You are clearly obsessing
If the RAS would like to expel me why not ask them
John Ludden
President
International Union of Geological Sciences IUGS
On 16 May 2024, at 11:12, Artem Oganov <A.Oganov@skoltech.ru> wrote:
Dear Prof. Ludden,
The case of discrimination of Russian scientists has indeed become very public, you can easily google "IUGS discrimination Oganov", and see numerous search results, and in Russian their number is particularly large (I can send you links, if you like). As far as I can see, the reputation of the IUGS is basically ruined by you, and the best thing you can do is resign from the position of a President of the IUGS. Let me explain a few particular points:
1. In your words, you have paused your membership in Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS) one year after the start of the war and your "sanctions". However, even this is not true:
(a) ******* personally checked all archives, and found no message from you to anyone in RAS, regarding your pause of membership.
(b) absolutely none of your pages reflect the "pause" in your RAS membership. On the contrary, your active RAS membership is mentioned in
-your Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ludden_(geologist)
-your page in the Royal Society of Edinburgh: https://rse.org.uk/fellowship/professor-john-ludden/
-your page in Russian Academy of Sciences: https://new.ras.ru/staff/inostrannyy-chlen-ran/ludden-dzhon/
2. I have quoted the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS, which clearly state that the mission of the IUGS is to work with all countries, and you have violated this:
“The aims of the Union are … (e) promoting participation of geoscientists in international endeavours regardless of race, citizenship, language, political stance or gender, and (f) encouraging international cooperation in meeting the geoscientific needs of any country or region".
3. The IUGS has not imposed any "sanctions" against scientists from the US, UK, and numerous other countries invading other countries multiple times. Such "sanctions" would violate the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS, but would at least make your position consistent. As it stands, the special treatment of Russian scientists by you and IUGS amounts to discrimination.
4. Your stated aim that by "affecting" Russian scientists (i.e. by discriminating and humiliating them) you will force them to put pressure on RAS and on Russian government, amazes me by complete lack of common sense. If I humiliate you, would this make you put pressure on king Charles III to stop all these illegal British invasions of other countries? It would be extremely naive to expect this.
Your final point that my request for your resignation is "highly unprofessional" is emotionally understandable, but I must reiterate my request. You have lied to the community about your RAS affiliation, and you have violated the Statutes and By-laws of the IUGS. You have damaged the reputation of the IUGS, and you have to go. On my part, I shall continue my efforts to free science from any discrimination.
Cordially yours,
Artem R. Oganov PhD DSci FRSC FCAcad MAE
________________________________________
From: John Ludden <jnludden@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:36 AM
To: Artem Oganov
Cc: secretariat; 정대교; Stan Finney; Hiroshi Kitazato; 정대교
Subject: Re: Igc
Dear Professor Oganov
In reply to your mail.
I was contacted by the RAS international secretary concerning my personal contact details a year or more ago and I asked the RAS to suspend my membership. They may not have done that and that is their choice, but I have removed my RAS affiliation from my signatures. This is unfortunate as I enjoyed good relationships with the Kola Science Center and with the Vernadsky Institute. I also had very good relationships with the geological institute and Oleg Petrov.
I hope these can resume one day.
As I explained, the entire executive of IUGS agreed on application of sanctions to the Russian Federation and the IUGS has cancelled the proposed IGC for St Petersburg in 2028, and a decision on the new location will be made in Busan. Whether this is illegal in the light of illegal activity by the Russian Federation in invading Ukraine is open for discussion and the next Executive, on which I shall remain as Past President may revisit the decision.
This does not apply to Russian scientists outside of the Russian Federation and those that might be able to participate via a third party affiliation.
The aim is that people like you who are impacted by the IUGS decision can put pressure on the likes of the RAS to influence your government. I appreciate that this is difficult.
I have not seen any particularly public comments on the IUGS from Russia.
I find the tone of your message highly unprofessional.
John Ludden
President
International Union of Geological Sciences IUGS
On 13 May 2024, at 19:13, Artem Oganov <A.Oganov@skoltech.ru> wrote:
Dear Prof. Ludden,
As you may have seen, the discrimination of Russian scientists at the IGC is now very public and the reputational damage is likely to be long lasting.
I have discovered two interesting things:
1. Just today I received a confirmation from Russian Academy of Sciences that they have not received from you any messages that you want to pause your membership in RAS. I am not sure why you misinformed everyone about this, and why you have not included yourself in your sanctions against Russia. I guess this would make your CV look worse.
2. A colleague drew my attention to the fact that your anti-Russian policies are illegal, as they contradict the Statutes and by-laws of the IUGS (article 1, https://www.iugs.org/_files/ugd/f1fc07_a11ee6d2eaae410a95681ae188d916f7.pdf):
“The aims of the Union are … (e) promoting participation of geoscientists in international endeavours regardless of race, citizenship, language, political stance or gender, and (f) encouraging international cooperation in meeting the geoscientific needs of any country or region".
It is clear that your values are incompatible with the declared values of the IUGS, and in my opinion you should resign from the position of IUGS President to prevent further damage and conflict of values.
________________________________________
From: Artem Oganov
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 2:29:15 AM
To: John Ludden; secretariat; 정대교
Subject: Re: Igc
Dear Prof. Ludden,
Your letter clarifies the situation: initially, I thought that the idea to discriminate Russian scientists belongs to the organizers of the IGC in South Korea. Now I see that it was your idea, aimed at forcing Russian scientists to do what you want. I believe this is completely counterproductive.
(1) All human history shows that discrimination is a fundamental evil. Can anything good be achieved by evil means? Hardly so. Evil can produce only evil.
(2) Discrimination is humiliating. Your decision gives Russian scientists lower rights and freedoms than scientists from other countries, and this is a humiliation. Is it possible that, humiliating people, you will attract them to your cause? I expect the opposite.
I hope these can resume one day.
As I explained, the entire executive of IUGS agreed on application of sanctions to the Russian Federation and the IUGS has cancelled the proposed IGC for St Petersburg in 2028, and a decision on the new location will be made in Busan. Whether this is illegal in the light of illegal activity by the Russian Federation in invading Ukraine is open for discussion and the next Executive, on which I shall remain as Past President may revisit the decision.
This does not apply to Russian scientists outside of the Russian Federation and those that might be able to participate via a third party affiliation.
The aim is that people like you who are impacted by the IUGS decision can put pressure on the likes of the RAS to influence your government. I appreciate that this is difficult.
I have not seen any particularly public comments on the IUGS from Russia.
I find the tone of your message highly unprofessional.
John Ludden
President
International Union of Geological Sciences IUGS
On 13 May 2024, at 19:13, Artem Oganov <A.Oganov@skoltech.ru> wrote:
Dear Prof. Ludden,
As you may have seen, the discrimination of Russian scientists at the IGC is now very public and the reputational damage is likely to be long lasting.
I have discovered two interesting things:
1. Just today I received a confirmation from Russian Academy of Sciences that they have not received from you any messages that you want to pause your membership in RAS. I am not sure why you misinformed everyone about this, and why you have not included yourself in your sanctions against Russia. I guess this would make your CV look worse.
2. A colleague drew my attention to the fact that your anti-Russian policies are illegal, as they contradict the Statutes and by-laws of the IUGS (article 1, https://www.iugs.org/_files/ugd/f1fc07_a11ee6d2eaae410a95681ae188d916f7.pdf):
“The aims of the Union are … (e) promoting participation of geoscientists in international endeavours regardless of race, citizenship, language, political stance or gender, and (f) encouraging international cooperation in meeting the geoscientific needs of any country or region".
It is clear that your values are incompatible with the declared values of the IUGS, and in my opinion you should resign from the position of IUGS President to prevent further damage and conflict of values.
________________________________________
From: Artem Oganov
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 2:29:15 AM
To: John Ludden; secretariat; 정대교
Subject: Re: Igc
Dear Prof. Ludden,
Your letter clarifies the situation: initially, I thought that the idea to discriminate Russian scientists belongs to the organizers of the IGC in South Korea. Now I see that it was your idea, aimed at forcing Russian scientists to do what you want. I believe this is completely counterproductive.
(1) All human history shows that discrimination is a fundamental evil. Can anything good be achieved by evil means? Hardly so. Evil can produce only evil.
(2) Discrimination is humiliating. Your decision gives Russian scientists lower rights and freedoms than scientists from other countries, and this is a humiliation. Is it possible that, humiliating people, you will attract them to your cause? I expect the opposite.
(3) The IUGS is supposed to be an international scientific organization, not a political entity. Its international status is based on everyone's trust - but politicizing science, IUGS risks to lose the trust of the international scientific community. Trust and reputation are hard to earn, easy to lose, and impossible to regain after losing it.
(4) While your ban on Russian scientists is now becoming very much public and even scandalous, the pause that you have taken in your membership in Russian Academy of Sciences is something that no one seems to be aware of. Both your Russian Academy of Sciences page (https://new.ras.ru/staff/inostrannyy-chlen-ran/ludden-dzhon/) and your Wikipedia mention you as an active foreign member of Russian Academy of Sciences, with no hint of the pause.
The IUGS could play a very positive role. At the time of so many wars and divisions, the IUGS could build the bridges - but chose to burn them. It could help Ukrainian scientists - but instead chose to harm Russian ones. It could make South Korean organizers proud of their congress - but instead put them to shame.
Cordially yours,
Artem R. Oganov PhD DSci FRSC MAE
________________________________________
From: John Ludden <jnludden@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 8:23 PM
To: Artem Oganov; secretariat; 정대교
Subject: Igc
Dear Professor Oganov,
Your mail has been forwarded to me in order to explain the iugs decision to refuse abstracts and talks submitted from Russian Institutions.
You will have seen the decision of the IUGS on our website. It essentially means that we have suspended any interaction with Russian Institutions. We even withdrew from a planned IGC meeting in St Petersburg in 2028.
This does not apply to Russian scientists working outside of Russia nor those with official affiliations that they can use as an affiliate from non-Russian institutions.
I sincerely regret the impact on Russian Scientists. But sanctions are supposed to influence people as well as politicians so they can feel motivated to exercise pressure. IUGS has taken a harder line than some scientific institutions, which is unanimously supported by our executive. I the IGS is the IUGS conference organised with a LOC after a rigorous selection process.
I too have strong links with Russian scientists being a foreign member of the RAS, that I have paused hoping for better times.
John Ludden
Professor John Ludden CBE
President
International Union of Geological Sciences IUGS
(4) While your ban on Russian scientists is now becoming very much public and even scandalous, the pause that you have taken in your membership in Russian Academy of Sciences is something that no one seems to be aware of. Both your Russian Academy of Sciences page (https://new.ras.ru/staff/inostrannyy-chlen-ran/ludden-dzhon/) and your Wikipedia mention you as an active foreign member of Russian Academy of Sciences, with no hint of the pause.
The IUGS could play a very positive role. At the time of so many wars and divisions, the IUGS could build the bridges - but chose to burn them. It could help Ukrainian scientists - but instead chose to harm Russian ones. It could make South Korean organizers proud of their congress - but instead put them to shame.
Cordially yours,
Artem R. Oganov PhD DSci FRSC MAE
________________________________________
From: John Ludden <jnludden@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 8:23 PM
To: Artem Oganov; secretariat; 정대교
Subject: Igc
Dear Professor Oganov,
Your mail has been forwarded to me in order to explain the iugs decision to refuse abstracts and talks submitted from Russian Institutions.
You will have seen the decision of the IUGS on our website. It essentially means that we have suspended any interaction with Russian Institutions. We even withdrew from a planned IGC meeting in St Petersburg in 2028.
This does not apply to Russian scientists working outside of Russia nor those with official affiliations that they can use as an affiliate from non-Russian institutions.
I sincerely regret the impact on Russian Scientists. But sanctions are supposed to influence people as well as politicians so they can feel motivated to exercise pressure. IUGS has taken a harder line than some scientific institutions, which is unanimously supported by our executive. I the IGS is the IUGS conference organised with a LOC after a rigorous selection process.
I too have strong links with Russian scientists being a foreign member of the RAS, that I have paused hoping for better times.
John Ludden
Professor John Ludden CBE
President
International Union of Geological Sciences IUGS
Wikipedia
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researcher, member of Academia Europaea
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